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...White House now holds that Israel suffered a “strategic defeat” in the 2006 Lebanon War
DEBKAfile ^ | 30APR07 | DEBKAfile

Posted on 05/01/2007 3:03:18 AM PDT by familyop


Ali Lalrijani, Iran's
senior nuclear negotiator
and diplomatic wirepuller


This view was leaked hours before the Israeli Winograd panel published its harsh criticisms of the Olmert government’s conduct of the war Monday, April 30, in Jerusalem. It represents another of the grave setbacks Israel has suffered in the wake of its failed management of the Lebanon war. President George W. Bush’s original judgment directly after the hostilities ended was quite different: “Hizballah attacked Israel; Hizballah started the crisis and Hizballah suffered a defeat in this crisis,” he said.

The revised view was not conveyed to the Israeli government; it was part of a warning Washington delivered to the Turkish prime minister Tayyep Erdogan, Sunday, April 24, to call off his planned offensive against PKK rebel bases in northern Iraq’s Kurdistan. The US message to Ankara reportedly cautioned the Turkish army to beware of landing itself in a situation similar to Israel’s predicament in the Hizballah war, i.e. Israel was confident of a swift victory and instead suffered “a strategic defeat.”

DEBKAfile’s Washington sources report:

The White House’s redefinition of the Lebanon War’s outcome is not just a factor in the foreign policy fallout dogging the Olmert government ever since, but a diplomatic olive branch for Iran, recognition that in the showdown between its surrogate and a key US ally, Tehran came off best. It is meant to pave the way for a US-Iranian understanding on Iraq and even perhaps on Tehran’s nuclear program. The Bush administration’s willingness to accept that the strategic advantage Hizballah gained in the 2006 conflict procured Iran a role in Lebanon implies its recognition of Iran’s important strategic role in Iraq. Positive ground rules are thus laid ahead of the interview projected between Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Iran’s foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki at the second Iraqi security conference taking place in Sharm el-Sheik this week (May 3-4).

Should an opening for a breakthrough with Iran present itself at those talks, Washington will obviously not think twice about putting Israel’s strategic interests to one side, as the party which suffered its first “strategic defeat” in war. Any US-Iran deal on Iraq will in any case probably be a package that includes Lebanon and Hizballah’s standing there..

Still, DEBKAfile’s Washington sources point out, these steps have not gone beyond diplomatic openers whose outcome is far from clear, especially as Tehran has still to respond. At the first Iraq security conference in Baghdad last month, Iranian representatives showed no inclination to jump into dialogue with America. Higher expectations this time were fueled by the sudden visit to Baghdad which the powerful Ali Larijani, who is head of Iran’s national security council and its chief nuclear negotiator, paid Sunday. It is rumored in Baghdad’s Green Zone that Larijani talked not only to Iraqi leaders but also met the new US ambassador Ryan Crocker to talk about a deal for the agenda and content of the Sharm el-Sheik conference.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: debka; defeat; iran; israel; lebanon

1 posted on 05/01/2007 3:03:22 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

The original title was essentially the same as in the following. I entered all that the posting input form would allow.

“DEBKAfile Exclusive: White House now holds that Israel suffered a “strategic defeat” in the 2006 Lebanon War”


2 posted on 05/01/2007 3:04:36 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. [(cbt.) has-been])
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To: familyop

Didn’t the White HOuse dictate to Israel how this whole fiasco would go down?


3 posted on 05/01/2007 3:15:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: SJackson; M. Espinola

Ping.


4 posted on 05/01/2007 3:15:52 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. [(cbt.) has-been])
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To: Joe Boucher

There was some pressure on Israel to go with popular international opinions.

Rice Calls for Israeli Restraint
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665489/posts

US Supplies Fatah With Arms, Rice Decries “Occupation”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718348/posts

US pressure prompts delay of [Israel’s] offensive (”We do not want escalations” - White House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1680983/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681771/posts

U.S. Directs Criticism at Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1680666/posts

Vatican Condemns Israel for Attacks on Lebanon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665678/posts


5 posted on 05/01/2007 3:18:21 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. [(cbt.) has-been])
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To: Joe Boucher
"...the White HOuse..."

I like that with the big _O_. ...good emphasis for the debacle...er, occasion.
6 posted on 05/01/2007 3:22:19 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. [(cbt.) has-been])
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To: familyop
"...the White HOuse..."

What if Obama gets elected? :D

7 posted on 05/01/2007 3:42:36 AM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: familyop
There was some pressure on Israel to go with popular international opinions.....

Dr. Rice, at the Dept of State-Sponsored Terrorism repeatedly
directed the Israeli Jews, Christians and Arabs to take the rockets and die
like good little Jews in European (EU) Concentration camps.

Afterwards, Dr. Rice joined the terrorist side and gave them
hundreds of millions of American Tax dollars and US support.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN:

President Bush(2001):

“You’re either on our side or the terrorists’ side”.


WHAT HAS BEEN AND IS:

SoS Condi Rice (11/2006) on Islamic terrorists -using weapons and money supplied by Dr Rice continuing
to murder, torture, and behead Americans, Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. ...............[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (10/2006) on Palestinian Zahar's threat to continue kidnapping of IDF soldiers ...............[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) on the need to utterly destroy and crush the terrorists to protect America .................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (10/2006) tells terrorist Abbas [funded the Munich massacre of the Israeli Olympic team,
wrote Ph.D. thesis denying the Holocaust] that the U.S. would "do what it can" to make his "legacy".

SoS Condi Rice (10/2006) plans to transfer ammunition and new assault rifles to Force 17 with $28 million in aid to Abbas
to enable his murderous band of terrorists to continue as Jew, Christian and American-murderers.

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding America's now planned role (through her) in the extermination of Israel and Jews ......................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) orders the U.S. State Department to support the Fatah terrorists with US taxpayer money.

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the kidnapping and torture of Shalit, Regev and Goldwasser by terrorists to whom she give US weapons .......................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding PA/Fatah/Terrorists' continuous slaughter of Jews, Christians and Americans (**** vide infra), "(The chronic terrorism is the Jews' fault) because of "the daily humiliation of the occupation".
She then gives them "thousands of M-16 assault rifles" to continue their slaughters, their murders, their terror (all in the name of Condi Rice)

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding PA/Fatah/Terrorists' capture of an American [10/10/06]...........................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to Murderer (including the Munich Olympics) Abbas (beloved at the US State Dept)
after attacks on Israelis, "(We promise,) Chairman Abbas(,) to double our efforts to improve the living conditions of Palestinians
[... so you may continue to viciously, violently, and paroxysmally murder as many Americans, Jews, and Christians as you possibly can].”

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Abbas' REAL statement on TV..........................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to Israel after decades of attacks on Israelis through the Voice of America, "More Restraint!".

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Iran's missile attack on Haifa ...................................................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Iran's threat of exterminating Jews worldwide............................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to Israel following Iran's missile attack on Haifa, "More Restraint!".

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Hezbollah's missile attacks murdering Israelis .............................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to Israel following Hezbollah's missile attacks murdering Israelis, "More Restraint!".

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Hezbollah's act of War ......................................................[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to Israel following Hezbollah's act of War, "More Restraint!".

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Hezbollah terrorists murderering and capturing Israeli soldiers......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Gaza terrorists capturing and holding Israeli soldier ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Gaza terrorists 24-hour ultimatum regarding captured Israeli soldier......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the threats to use chemical weapons against the Israelis ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to the Jews defending themselves after they are murdered by terrorists, "More Restraint!".

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Hamas Rocket-Attacking Israeli Schoolchildren (again, and again) .....[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) to the Jews mourning for those murdered by terrorists, "More Restraint!".

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding Hamas or Fatah murders of Americans and Israelis .....[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the abductions of valiant Marines, soldiers, airmen and seamen ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the hostage holding of valiant Marines, soldiers, airmen and seamen ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the repeated beheadings of valiant Marines, soldiers, airmen and seamen ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the repeated torture and murders of valiant Marines, soldiers, airmen and seamen ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the frame-up of valiant Marines, soldiers, airmen and seamen by the terrorists ......[.... sounds of crickets]

SoS Condi Rice (2006) regarding the frame-up of valiant Marines, soldiers, airmen and seamen by the MSM ......[.... sounds of crickets]


PARTIAL LIST OF THE NEAR-ENDLESS ISLAMIC TERRORISM, TORTURES AND MURDERS IGNORED, EVEN ENCOURAGED
AND PAID FOR, BY SoS Condi Rice and the terrorist-complicit US State Dept.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

George Santayana

"Those in power who cannot remember the past,
condemned their citizens to be murdered again and again and again ........."


8 posted on 05/01/2007 4:40:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: familyop

Light dawns on Marblehead


9 posted on 05/01/2007 4:46:52 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The arrogance of ignorance is astounding" NVA 4/22/07)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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10 posted on 05/01/2007 5:50:16 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: familyop

Initially it was an accident and then I looked at it and decided it appropriate.


11 posted on 05/01/2007 7:08:07 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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