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U.K.:'Too Fat' Patients Denied NHS Operations (smokers too; 6M people affected)
Sky News (U.K.) ^ | April 28, 2007 | Thomas Moore

Posted on 04/28/2007 3:48:41 PM PDT by Stoat

'Too Fat' Patients Denied NHS Operations

By Thomas Moore
Health correspondent
Updated: 23:27, Saturday April 28, 2007

 

Patients are being denied operations on the NHS simply because they are overweight or smoke, a survey by Sky News has found.

 

Six million people affected
Six million people affected

Nine primary care trusts have a specific policy to refuse joint replacements to obese patients. And four will not consider orthopaedic surgery if patients smoke.

In all, six million patients live in areas affected by so-called lifestyle rationing.

Jean Ryan has been told she cannot have her hip replaced until she loses weight.

But she says that is impossible because the pain means she can barely move, let alone exercise.

Despite living on a pension she has taken out an £8000 loan to pay for surgery abroad.

She said: "I don't think it is fair. If I lived in Bournemouth there would be no bar on being overweight. I can't see any other way round the problem. I can't see them helping. So you have to help yourself. Either that or you end up in a wheelchair."

The Sky News survey shows that in the absence of national rules, local PCTs are making up their own.

North Staffordshire has the toughest restrictions. To qualify for any routine elective operation, patients must have a body mass index below 30. They must also have given up smoking for at least three months.

Andrew Haldenby from pressure group Doctors for Reform said there should be national rules for the National Health Service.

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He said: " These decisions should be taken in Parliament. These are exceptionally serious thorny questions. They get to the heart of what the NHS is."

According to Suffolk PCT obese patients are at higher risk of blood loss and infections after operations.

The PCT is also £31million in debt and Public Health Director Dr Peter Bradley said money must be used wisely.

"We have limited resources and we have to make sure we are using them to best effect. It's sensible to use that money where we know the treatment is going to work."

The Department of Health insisted that treatment is delivered according to patients' clinical need, not their lifestyle choice. And decisions are taken by doctors, not managers or politicians.

:: PCTs with a specific policy denying joint surgery to obese patients:

North Staffordshire
Stoke
Lincolnshire
North Lincolnshire
Milton Keynes
Hereford
West Hertfordshire
East and North Hertfordshire
Suffolk

:: PCTs with a policy denying joint surgery to smokers:

North Staffordshire
Lincolnshire
North Lincolnshire
Milton Keynes

:: PCTs that expect doctors to consider bodyweight and tobacco use before referring for surgery

Surrey
South Staffordshire
Dorset
Central and East Cheshire


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; england; greatbritain; healthcare; heath; heathcare; hillarycare; nannystate; nhs; obesity; pufflist; rationing; smoking; socialism; socializedmedicine; uk; unitedkingdom; universalhealthcare
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1 posted on 04/28/2007 3:48:47 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Coming soon to a country near you.


2 posted on 04/28/2007 3:52:37 PM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a Rudy-Bot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Glenn
Ah, yes, ''universal'' health care. If you happen to agree with, and behave according to, the diktat of the totalitarians.

Gee, lookie how well this policy has worked out in the UK, Canada, (...refuses to recite the entire list...).

3 posted on 04/28/2007 3:55:00 PM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: Glenn
Coming soon to a country near you.

Yes....you may have noticed that I also included a link to a FR article on Medicaid being considered for denial in Missouri due to obesity and smoking.  It appears to be a growing trend.(pardon the pun)

4 posted on 04/28/2007 3:57:04 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Glenn

And Mrs William Jefferson Blythe Clinton is thinking, “Hmmmm...”


5 posted on 04/28/2007 3:58:16 PM PDT by Mark (REMEMBER: Mean spirited, angry remarks against my postings won't feed even one hungry child.)
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To: Stoat
It appears to be a growing trend

Who wouldn't want the chance to play God's accountant?

6 posted on 04/28/2007 3:58:31 PM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a Rudy-Bot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Stoat

Socialized Medicine is good.

/sarc


7 posted on 04/28/2007 3:59:17 PM PDT by agent_delta
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To: Glenn
It appears to be a growing trend

Who wouldn't want the chance to play God's accountant?
 

A Socialist bureaucrat comes quickly to mind.

8 posted on 04/28/2007 4:00:30 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Except Muslims, of course....
9 posted on 04/28/2007 4:00:32 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration."- unknown)
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To: Stoat

Socialized medicion is rationed medicine.


10 posted on 04/28/2007 4:01:33 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Stoat

Haw haw. Don’t you love how socialist bureaucrats come up with excuses for not doing things they can’t do anyway?

I bet that 6 million was almost exactly the number of people who wouldn’t get surgery within six months anyway.

“But we have to preserve our precious socialized medicine, at all costs! (snivel!)”


11 posted on 04/28/2007 4:02:38 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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Milton Keynes

*Snort* Well, it is not a Quality Of Life issue there..

12 posted on 04/28/2007 4:05:48 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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So..Exactly what do they do if someone wants surgery, and says, "I am not overweight, nor do I smoke! I have these purple welts on me, and feel weak and catch pneumonia all the time, and I cannot spend as much time in bath houses as I used to."

I bet they have to operate.

Chubbies and smokers made choices. So did this guy. Why is there a difference?

13 posted on 04/28/2007 4:08:43 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Stoat
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Michael Moore is dooooooooomed!!!!
14 posted on 04/28/2007 4:09:34 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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Here's an idea...since people are apparently willing to pay ( or, rather, forced into paying) thousands of pounds to travel to other countries to get the care that they need, how about leasing unused hospital ships from the Navy and stationing them just outside Great Britain's territorial waters?  Enterprising Capitalists could start ferry companies dedicated to bringing patients out to the ships where they could have their healthcare needs provided for.

Capitalism rescues the public from Socialism once again!

15 posted on 04/28/2007 4:09:54 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Surprise, surprise, surprise...science fiction strikes again!

I’ve read stories dealing with these issues, in addition to maximum ages of treatment, and much else for the past 40 years.

Naturally, those in power poo-pood it; and the illiterate masses, even if they could have read the warnings being cried in the wilderness, were too mesmerized by promises of “free care forever” to pay any attention.

16 posted on 04/28/2007 4:14:56 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Group identifiers: A herd of goats; a billowing of burkas; a murder of Muslims; a pack of idiots)
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To: Stoat
Patients are being denied operations on the NHS simply because they are overweight or smoke, a survey by Sky News has found.

It is called "Economic Medical Triage"! Coming to you as a side benefit of the soon to be enacted "National Healthcare Assurance Act of 2009"!......... Stay tuned!

17 posted on 04/28/2007 4:18:42 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Stoat
And of COURSE, these 6 million will be allowed to opt out of paying the taxes that support this travesty.

What am I saying? Of COURSE they will!

18 posted on 04/28/2007 4:19:09 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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To: Stoat

A blog resource for anyone who’s interested in the real story about the English medical system.

http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/


19 posted on 04/28/2007 4:32:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Stoat

Add a dental practice to that plan and you’ve got a winner!


20 posted on 04/28/2007 4:37:24 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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