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Wal-Mart Names HD DVD the Winner
digitaltrends.com ^ | April 23rd, 2007 | Rob Enderle

Posted on 04/26/2007 8:22:22 AM PDT by mjp

There is one retailer that has the power to call the winner of the protracted Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD fight and that vendor is Wal-Mart. Over the weekend they apparently leaked plans to bring in a massive number of low cost (possibly sub $200) HD DVD players for Christmas.

The manufacturing side of this has apparently been in the works for a few years but this is the first time we have had projected prices for the result.

Why Wal-Mart, Why Now?

Wal-Mart uses DVDs to build store traffic. They tend to subsidize the price for the movies they feature to get folks into the stores and once there, these folks tend to buy other things. DVDs have been so effective for the company they threw their body at movie downloads initially and delayed the related services by several years. However, they have now realized that this kind of thing is coming regardless and have brought out their own movie download service to compete. But that doesn’t address the store traffic benefit that will be evaporating as people move away from DVDs for standard definition downloadable movies.

Wal-Mart sees the new high definition formats as a way to bring in store traffic again but they realized that won’t happen unless the players are affordable and there is only one standard. They recognized their own power in being king maker previously and are now using that power to drive the format that works best for them. They could care less about the technology as this is all about making money and they (like every other retailer in this space) know that two formats won’t allow the market to move outside of the fringes and the dual-mode players are simply way too expensive.

So they need one standard and a lot of players in market before their DVD customers wander off to download land and stops coming to Wal-Mart for movies.

Why HD-DVD and not Blu-Ray?

For Wal-Mart the only real metric is cost. Wal-mart doesn’t really make money off of the movies and do not sell high-end home theater equipment. They are known for aggressive prices and, as mentioned above, they subsidize their DVD sales. They needed something that could sell for under $200 soon and they needed the lowest cost of the new formats. This is where HD DVD shines, not only had Toshiba agreed to license to low cost manufacturers early on, but HD DVDs are pressed on the same lines that regular DVDs are, they require no major equipment change out and the blanks, when compared to Blu-Ray are less expensive as well.

This made the decision simple, Blu-Ray was just too expensive to make this work and any technical advantages were insignificant against Wal-Mart’s need for the lowest cost offering. For them it is about price and that is where HD DVD clearly has the sustainable advantage.

What does this Mean?

It means that any studio wanting Wal-Mart’s support after year end had better be selling HD DVD movies. Wal-Mart won’t be promoting Blu-Ray and, after year end, will increasingly focus their marketing on getting people to buy into HD DVD players and the related HD DVD movie from them.

In short, the Blu-Ray aligned studios will now have to either support both formats or risk losing much of Wal-Mart's business and given how material this business is to them, you have to think that an anti-Wall-Mart decision would have a material impact on their bonuses and career longevity. It certainly puts Columbia Pictures, which is owned by Sony, in a particularly uncomfortable position.

So, if this move by Wal-Mart is true , and it appears to be (but we won’t know for sure for a few months yet), the format war is likely over and Wal-Mart has declared the winner.


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KEYWORDS: christmas; hddvd; walmart
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HD DVD versus Blu-ray - The porn industry says HD DVD
1 posted on 04/26/2007 8:22:24 AM PDT by mjp
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To: mjp

The Golden Rule:

Those with the money - make the rules.


2 posted on 04/26/2007 8:25:46 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: mjp
"Wal-Mart uses DVDs to build store traffic."

I hate to admit it, but it works. I go in there on Tuesdays to get movies, and I never get out of there without buying something else. I get mad at myself every time, but I can't just run into Wal-Mart for just one thing. If Wal-Mart goes with HD, that is what I would go with, too. No matter how much I complain about the lines, the crappy customer service and the fact that I spend too much whenever I go in there, the utter convenience of being able to ALL my shopping in one place is just too tempting when I have a deployed hubby, three kids and a full-time job. Besides, they just opened the third Supercenter in town closer to my house, and it's really nice. So count me in with the masses who would go with whatever format Wal-Mart chooses.
3 posted on 04/26/2007 8:29:02 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: mjp

I STILL SAY BETA IS BETTER!...............


4 posted on 04/26/2007 8:29:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


5 posted on 04/26/2007 8:29:34 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: mjp

What is the big deal? I read a few months back that LG Electronics would be coming out with a player that plays both. Once that happens this “battle” would be moot.


6 posted on 04/26/2007 8:29:36 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan
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To: mjp

So Blue Ray will soon be going the way of Beta.


7 posted on 04/26/2007 8:29:45 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball; Prophet in the wilderness
ping

What's with the long nics? Whatever happened to six character nics?

8 posted on 04/26/2007 8:31:33 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

LG already released a hybrid player a few months ago. Their second generation player will be out soon. Samsung (formerly a Blu-Ray supporter) has announced they will also release a hybrid player this year.

If the rumors are true, one of the Blu-Ray supporters (I believe Pioneer) was furious at LG for going format neutral, and not sticking with Blu-Ray only. I expect Samsung will get some of the same heat from the Blu-Ray camp.


9 posted on 04/26/2007 8:34:43 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: mainepatsfan

Didn’t Sony put out the Beta format also, losing out to VHS?


10 posted on 04/26/2007 8:41:26 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: mjp

Its a sad reflection on society, but if the Porn industry goes with HD-DVD, then thats the winner; despite Walmart. Porn was why VHS won, helped create video on the internet, and the explosive growth of DVD discs and players.


11 posted on 04/26/2007 8:54:14 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: mjp

SONY LOSES AGAIN.


12 posted on 04/26/2007 8:54:39 AM PDT by montag813
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To: LanPB01
Hybrids are the obvious direction. There's a major difference between HDDVD/Bluray and VHS/Beta....the physical shape of the media is the same.

-Eric

13 posted on 04/26/2007 8:54:43 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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Its a sad reflection on society, but if the Porn industry goes with HD-DVD, then thats the winner; despite Walmart.

WalMart is the corner drugstore next to the Empire of Porn.

14 posted on 04/26/2007 8:55:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: mjp

This was debunked completely. It was a chicom IPO statement of intent from a chicom manufacturing company raising money for an IPO.

Total bunk... even CNET had an article about this hoax!

LLS


15 posted on 04/26/2007 8:57:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: LanPB01
"Samsung (formerly a Blu-Ray supporter) has announced they will also release a hybrid player this year."

Samsung's latest Blu-Ray player, the BD-P1200, is very nice. If they can make that machine play HD-DVDs as well, they will have a killer product.

16 posted on 04/26/2007 9:02:37 AM PDT by magellan
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To: mjp

bump


17 posted on 04/26/2007 9:19:50 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: FreeManWhoCan

That player costs $1200.

You can buy one of each for less. The battle goes on.


18 posted on 04/26/2007 9:21:22 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: mainepatsfan; mjp; FreeManWhoCan
So Blue Ray will soon be going the way of Beta.

Not if there are dual format readers/writers that don't cost too much more than single format machines. Don't be surprised if in three years all new high definition DVD players read both formats and cost less than half as much as the current single format players. Compared to computer equipment from two decades ago any of the high definition format DVD players are dirt cheap. What's this $200 for an HD DVD player? I remember when single CD players were $1,000 in 1985 dollars.

What killed Betamax was that even if Beta had marginally better picture quality, VHS cassettes could hold two hours of tape at standard speed which is enough to record most movies and could record a whole football game on half speed. The Beta and VHS cassettes were completely incompatible so in order to use both required two separate VCRS that cost over $1,000 in late 1970's dollars.

If one machine that is a fraction of the real cost of VCR (when they were introduce) can play/record both formats, then what really matters is whether the addtional features of the higher end format are compelling enough to studios to release films in that format even if intially the costs more to master and manufacture.

19 posted on 04/26/2007 9:33:45 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: mjp

VHS vs Betamax all over again. Looks like the “grim reaper” for Blu-Ray.


20 posted on 04/26/2007 9:38:49 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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