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Negotiators Agree on War-Funding Package ~ War Supplemental Now Includes Minimum-Wage Increase?
Washington Post Staff Writers ^ | Tuesday, April 24, 2007; Page A10 | Jonathan Weisman and Elizabeth Williamson

Posted on 04/24/2007 9:33:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

House and Senate negotiators reached agreement yesterday on war-funding legislation that would begin bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq as early as July, setting a goal of ending U.S. combat operations by no later than March.

The $124 billion bill, slated for final votes in the House and Senate tomorrow and Thursday, sets up a veto clash with President Bush by week's end. Some congressional Democrats had considered making advisory all dates for withdrawing U.S. troops in the hopes of persuading Bush to sign the bill, which Democratic leaders said provides $96 billion -- more than the White House requested -- for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But with the president standing firm on his plans to veto any language on the timing of the war, Democratic leaders stuck to binding dates for initial troop pullouts.

"Our commitment is not endless," said Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), who said the legislation "sets us on a path with the best chance of achieving success in Iraq."

Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.) called it "a message of surrender. We all know this bill is going nowhere," he said.

The agreement on Capitol Hill came on a day when Congress's differences with the White House resulted in a pair of rhetorical blasts.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqsurge; reid; warfunding

1 posted on 04/24/2007 9:33:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
From the Blogosphere....Captain's Quarters:

War Supplemental Now Includes Minimum-Wage Increase?

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Readers don't find out about the attachment of the minimum-wage hike and its balancing tax cuts until the last paragraph of the story. Democrats have had to throw in everything but the kitchen sink to get this mess passed in Congress. The minimum-wage hike would have attracted the hardliners opposed to any more war funding, buying votes for surrender just as surely as the billions for agricultural assistance does.

It makes it easier for the President to veto, though he has not vociferously opposed the minimum-wage hike. The bill will quickly get torpedoed at the White House, and it's entirely possible that Bush will make a big show of it. That will put all of these programs at a legislative disadvantage, as they will have to start over from scratch and send them back through committees -- unless Congress can override the vetoes. And given the razor-thin majorities that approved these bills, everything will have to start over again.

Most amusing, though, are the comments Democrats made in support of the bill. Patty Murray, who once lauded Osama bin Laden for his sponsorship of schools, said that the Democratic strategy of withdrawal "sets us on a path with the best chance of achieving success in Iraq," without explaining how surrendering equates to success. Harry Reid, who declared defeat in Iraq last week in a move that took even his fellow Democrats by surprise, expanded on his military analysis by insisting that "no progress has been made" in Iraq, despite the assessment of General Petraeus on the scene. They also casted this bill as an effort to reach a compromise with the White House, which has insisted that fixed timetables for withdrawal will be completely unacceptable -- making the Democrats' inclusion of those timetables an odd form of "compromise".

Democrats hope to run out the clock on war funding in order to force Bush to accept withdrawal. It continues their insistence on a passive-aggressive strategy that they hope will insulate them from the consequences of an American withdrawal by blaming it on Bush, rather than having the courage of their own rhetoric and defunding the troops in Iraq. When Iraq collapses into a conflagration of complete civil war because of our precipitate withdrawal, the disaster will belong to the party of defeat and retreat, no matter how much blame-shifting Reid and Nancy Pelosi attempt.

2 posted on 04/24/2007 9:35:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Most amusing, though, are the comments Democrats made in support of the bill.
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This line, and a flame 3’ high burns my a$$.
The Country is at WAR, and DRats are amused ????


3 posted on 04/24/2007 9:40:53 AM PDT by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: IrishMike
I would have preferred ...arrogant....
4 posted on 04/24/2007 9:43:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

the one thing Bill Clinton had right was saying the president needed line item veto power.


5 posted on 04/24/2007 9:43:58 AM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Let's Go Pee Yay (The Cubs new young player is named Pie pronounced Pee Yay))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"He's in denial about the enemy that we face," she said. "He is in denial about the conflict that we are in . . . [about] a surrender date he thinks is a good idea. It is not a good idea. It is defeat. It is a death sentence for the millions of Iraqis who voted for . . . a free and democratic society. "

6 posted on 04/24/2007 9:47:01 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ok.........now is the time to play hardball....these b@$tards wanna play, fine...veto every spending bill that comes across the pike...shut the damn government down..welfare and social security checks, medicare payments, food stamp payments, government paychecks....SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!! it should take about a week......


7 posted on 04/24/2007 9:50:30 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Nothin' from Nothin' leaves Nothin')
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To: joe fonebone
You seem to discount the fickleness of the mussy middle....
8 posted on 04/24/2007 9:52:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You appeared to have typed an ‘m’ where a ‘p’ is more appropriate.


9 posted on 04/24/2007 9:57:25 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: TexasCajun

We got a link for that....?


10 posted on 04/24/2007 9:59:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: TexasCajun
Found this:

President Bush Discusses Iraq War Supplemental
South Lawn

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11:13 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Seventy-eight days ago I sent Congress a request for emergency war funding that our troops urgently need. I made it clear to Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill that I'm willing to discuss our differences on the way forward in Iraq. But I also made it clear our troops should not be caught in the middle of that discussion.

Yesterday, Democratic leaders announced that they plan to send me a bill that will fund our troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of dollars in unrelated spending, and begin to pull out of Iraq by an arbitrary date.

I'm disappointed that the Democratic leadership has chosen this course. The bill they announced yesterday includes some of the worst parts of the measures they had earlier passed with narrow majorities in the House and the Senate. They know I'm going to veto a bill containing these provisions, and they know that my veto will be sustained.

But instead of fashioning a bill I could sign, the Democratic leaders chose to further delay funding our troops, and they chose to make a political statement. That's their right. But it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of our military commanders. I strongly believe that the Democrats' proposal would undermine our troops and threaten the safety of the American people here at home. And here is why.

First, a proposal would mandate the withdrawal of American troops beginning as early as July 1st of this year, and no later than October 1st of this year, despite the fact that General Petraeus has not yet received all the reinforcements he needs. It makes no sense to tell the enemy when you start to plan withdrawing. If we were to do so, the enemy would simply mark their calendars and begin plotting how to take over a country when we leave.

We know what could happen next. Just as al Qaeda used Afghanistan as a base to plan attacks of September the 11th, al Qaeda could make Iraq a base to plan even more deadly attacks. The lesson of 9/11 is that allowing terrorists to find a sanctuary anywhere in the world can have deadly consequences on the streets of our own cities. Precipitous withdrawal from Iraq is not a plan to bring peace to the region or to make our people safer at home. Instead, it would embolden our enemies and confirm their belief that America is weak. It could unleash chaos in Iraq that could spread across the entire region. It would be an invitation to the enemy to attack America and our friends around the world. And, ultimately, a precipitous withdrawal would increase the probability that American troops would one day have to return to Iraq and confront an enemy that's even more dangerous.

Second, the Democratic leadership's proposal is aimed at restricting the ability of our generals to direct the fight in Iraq. They've imposed legislative mandates, they passed legislative mandates telling them which enemies they can engage and which they cannot. That means our commanders in the middle of a combat zone would have to take fighting directions from legislators 6,000 miles away on Capitol Hill. The result would be a marked advantage for our enemies and a greater danger for our troops.

Third, the bill proposed by Democratic leaders would spend billions of dollars on projects completely unrelated to the war. Proposed legislation does remove some of the most egregious pork barrel projects that Democratic leaders had inserted in earlier bills. Yet it still includes huge amounts of domestic spending that has no place in an emergency war funding bill. We should debate those provisions on their own merits, during the normal process -- but funding for our troops should not be held hostage while that debate unfolds.

I know that Americans have serious concerns about this war. People want our troops to come home, and so do I. But no matter how frustrating the fight can be and no matter how much we wish the war was over, the security of our country depends directly on the outcome in Iraq. The price of giving up there would be paid in American lives for years to come. It would be an unforgivable mistake for leaders in Washington to allow politics and impatience to stand in the way of protecting the American people.

Last November, the American people said they were frustrated and wanted a change in our strategy in Iraq. I listened. Today, General David Petraeus is carrying out a strategy that is dramatically different from our previous course. The American people did not vote for failure, and that is precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee.

It's not too late for Congress to do the right thing and to send me a bill that gives our troops and the commanders the funds and flexibility they need. I'm willing to meet with leaders in Congress as many times as it takes to resolve our differences. Yet, if the Democratic leaders insist on using the bill to make a political statement, they will leave me with only one option: I will veto it. And then I'll work with Congress to pass a clean bill that funds our troops without handcuffing our commanders, spending billions of dollars unrelated to the war, and forcing our nation to withdraw on the enemy's terms.

Thank you.

END 11:20 A.M. EDT

11 posted on 04/24/2007 10:03:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

ROFL!....

OK!


12 posted on 04/24/2007 10:04:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

God Bless that man and our Troops.


13 posted on 04/24/2007 10:21:15 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Of course they added a minimum wage increase.

They will likely add a lot of other things that they think will gain them political points when Bush veto's the bill.

They know Bush will veto it.

Now they will get to say that Bush vetoed a minimum wage increase.

The pork in the bill that gets vetoed will become something along the lines of Bush vetoing X number of jobs.

I think there's money for hurricane "victims" in there too. I'm sure they will say he vetoed helping disaster victims who desperately needed help too.

This bill has shown how morally depraved and treasonous the Democratic party has become.

If the Democrats win the presidency in '08 or even maintain a majority in either house for long, it is a sad indicator about the future of our society.

14 posted on 04/24/2007 11:38:47 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic
Another indicator:

Missouri's most powerful Baptist takes on the 'emerging church'

**********************ie...the Strategy of the ACLU and Commies WORKS************************

15 posted on 04/24/2007 12:55:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Negotiators Agree on War-Funding Package
16 posted on 04/24/2007 2:10:45 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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