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Posted on 04/17/2007 10:57:28 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Transcripts are clickable on the site too if you dont want to watch. You can read instead.
Three interesting clips. This guy is not caught up in the hype over atmospheric CO2.
He slams computer models pretty hard.
Three short vids. First one should start right away. Select the last two on the dropdown menu on the left.
http://www.peoplesarchive.com/browse/movies/1248/en/
144. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere: the balance between vegetation and atmosphere [Duration 00:06:33]
145. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere: global warming and stratospheric cooling [Duration 00:01:27]
146. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere: conclusions [Duration 00:02:42]
Freeman Dyson is almost universally agreed to be one of the smartest people on our planet.
That's why the MSM will simply ignore him instead of villifying him as they do other GW "heretics".
“I think we can control the carbon dioxide rather easily, because it’s a question of land management essentially and the amounts that are involved in the vegetation are so large that if you merely just change some of the forest management practices or do a little more irrigation in some places, it’s quite likely you can absorb all the carbon dioxide you want, at a cost which is far less than stopping burning coal and oil. So that’s essentially what I’m trying to understand.” -Freeman Dyson
Her certainly has concerns. But the above is very from from Al Gores message is it???
Her certainly has concerns. But the above is very from from Al Gores message is it???
Correction...
from AL Gores message ISN’T it???
HERETIC
The Great and Mighty Gore will not be pleased.
Shhhh
The Goracle may hear you!
Wow. Cool. Not so much the Global warming stuff, but the site itself.
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The CO2 Ox will be Gored.......
I'm sure Al knows as much about this topic as Divinity issues, one of his majors in college. Or maybe not; didn't he fail out of Divinity school?
I happen to be a rare believer, in general and in theory, with global warming, here on FR. That said, I am not a Global Warming (tm) alarmist. Dyson DOES believe in the dangers of CO2, but believes that the primary one isn't of warming, but of stratospeheric cooling, which hurts the ozone layer, which, when it opens holes over the ARCTIC, vs the Anarctic, where nobody lives anyways, is going to be a big problem. He also believes that by managing vegetation, we will be able, relatively simply, to manage CO2 levels.
There can be no debate as illustrated by the site listed below:
http://www.climatescience.org.nz/
DISCONTINUANCE OF PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
While we appreciate the additions to debate by the small but devoted band who have been using the discussion facility provided on this website for generally interesting and researched exchanges of views, we regret that due to the clogging of these discussion sections with incomprehensible gibberish by some anonymous but obviously demented devotee of ex-Senator Gore, we are closing the facility forthwith. Those of you who may feel inconvenienced by this action by our volunteer webmaster will know just who to blame.
Dyson has been right at the top of theoretical physics. He has had time to reflect on the limits of scientific knowledge.
A true Physics demigod. Unlike clowns such as Michael Mann.
CO2 ping!
I happen to be a moderately religious person; I mean I'm not in any sense a theologian or somebody who really knows a lot about religion, but I go to church and I have a feeling that it's a great thing that churches and synagogues and mosques exist in the world. They are communities of the kind that make people better on the whole, and certainly in Princeton we have about 25 churches and they're full every Sunday, in addition to a couple of synagogues and I don't know if there's a mosque on the highway not far away.
In any case, this is an important part of our lives and I'm very happy to be a part of it. My grandsons goes to the little Sunday school at the church where we go and so they're learning Bible stories and I think it's good that people learn these stories when they're young so they have some feeling for the culture even if they don't believe the religion. Christianity is very much a part of our culture and at least they should know what the bible is about. So I'm happy to belong to that, and the church also plays an important social role in this community. It's about the only institution that really ties the community together and takes care of aged and sick and poor people, so I'm all in favour of religion as an institution.
And at the same time, I find it doesn't make any conflict with my science; that religion to me is really not about belief, it's about belonging, it's about a way of life, and so I don't find the slightest difficulty in being a religious person in this sense and being a scientist. And that's maybe a slightly unusual combination. I mean, most of my friends either tend to be total agnostics who have no interest in religion at all, or else are worried about conflicts between science and religion. The more religious people that I know mostly have difficulties in harmonising science and religion. I find my situation is rather unusual, so I like to explain this. I suppose that's the main reason that I go to meetings, to try to point out to people that you can be both; that the conflicts are in a way very artificial and the conflicts only arise if you try to make religion into a science or if you try to make science into a religion, both of which are very unsatisfying.
Both mistakes, of course, are frequently made. The fundamentalists try to make religion into a science, and a lot of the more extreme what you might call science worshippers, in which I include Einstein, Einstein was one of the worst of those, he made science into a religion and he said quite explicitly that for him science was a religion, there was something sacred about it, and that I think is a cause of a great deal of difficulty, and caused him to take a very narrow view of science.
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