That Night At Duke

Newsweek by MSNBC ^ | April 15, 2007

[Howlin]

April 23, 2007 issue - The room went dead silent as the North Carolina attorney general, Roy Cooper, began to speak. The three Duke lacrosse players and their families were gathered in front of a TV at the Raleigh Sheraton Hotel to learn how the state would proceed in a criminal investigation that had appalled and titillated the nation for more than a year. Reade Seligmann was praying, and so was Collin Finnerty, heads bent down, bobbing slightly as the attorney general spoke slowly. The families were pretty sure, based on signals from the attorney general's office, that the case would be dropped. But when the families heard the word "innocent," they erupted. "I was hysterically crying," recalls Seligmann, a strapping 21-year-old. "Everybody was hysterically crying. People were swarmed. It was like a pile-on."

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The night didn't go well from the start. After an afternoon and evening of desultory drinking games such as Beer Pong, about 30 players were sprawled on the floor or sitting on a ring of couches arranged around the stage—a ratty, tan carpet. Evans explained to his teammates that he and the other captains had requested white dancers, but that a black woman and a Hispanic woman had shown up. No one seemed to care, according to the statement given to police by Zash. One of the strippers appeared to be intoxicated and had trouble standing up, much less dancing. Halfheartedly, she began kissing the other dancer, Kim Roberts.

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[Arrowhead1952]

I replied, “Sodomy is what Nifong did to the Duke lacrosse players.”

I heard someone commenting about this the other day and he said, "I rather have a Lewinsky any day, than be Nifonged."

[Howlin]

Dave Evans evidently says just that on 60 Minutes tonight, something like, “The day I die, they will say ‘One of the three Duke Lacrosse players accused of rape died today.’”

No amount of money can make up for that.

[Howlin]

Where have we seen this kind of thing before?

Ah, lemme think. That's a hard one. LOL.

I wonder if we'll ever know ALL the facts in this case, starting with that phone call?

[Mr. Brightside]

Roberts called the players "short d—k white boys," according to several defense attorneys. ("She did admit to saying that," says Simeon.) One player shouted back, "We asked for whites, not n——-s." Roberts yelled, "That's a racial slur, a hate crime," as she drove off with the other dancer slumped inside.

So Roberts shouts a racial statement at the boys. They reply in kind. And now SHE cries racism?

[MrEdd]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Would that be you Bouchart?

So someone can not possibly have never watched strippers or gotten drunk, eh ?
Your bible forbids judging behaviors does it?
Must be an entirely different one than mine. Perhapses you use the Unitarian Universalists of Berkley translation - like the congregation over at Our Lady of the Benthanger Abortion.

[sissyjane]

We have discussed this aspect of the Duke case into the ground. They were not degenerates. They were normal college boys.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Bump! Male rite of passage. We all did it.

[Sue Perkick]

That just breaks my heart. It’s true.

[Bouchart]

I never did it.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Well, you didn’t really miss much.

[Guenevere]

Sadly true.

[MediaMole]

Any DA with any judgment would have investigated, discovered that the stripper’s story was a lie and dropped the case. This isn’t the first or last time that a woman has lied about this sort of thing.

The difference is that a prosecutor went so far in vilifying and victimizing the accused in the face of flimsy and contradictory evidence.

[jim35]

[”I never did it.”]

Congratulations. I did, when I was in the Navy, and once or twice when I was still single. And I’ve been drunk more times than that. Way more.

I’m not bragging about it, just telling it like it is. So how did you avoid it when you did your military service? Most of the guys in my BEQ could be pretty persuasive about going out to paint the town.

Don’t put yourself on too high of a pedestal, or you’ll find yourself committing a worse sin than lust, or getting drunk.

[Trailerpark Badass]

I’m a college student myself. I’ve never done any of these “college antics” and I expect better from others.

LOL, prepare to be disappointed.

[Ken H]

I certainly do not believe they are criminals, or that they were "deserving of a year of hell."

You go to Duke, right? Did you do anything to help them, or did you just toss sniping comments their way?

[rzeznikj at stout]

...and some of us are in the thick of it 8^)

[stephenjohnbanker]

Keep up the tradition, lil bro!

[Eric Blair 2084]

Thanks. I think they remind us of when we were 9th graders...which brings us to:

[Eric Blair 2084]

Nonsense. They are degenerates.

Well then I guess I'm a degenerate too. So is every other guy on FR who has ever been to a bachelor party with strippers and booze.

Just out of curiousity, are you male or female?

[Bouchart]

Male.