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Windows XP to be phased out by year's end despite customer demand
APC Magazine ^ | 12 April 2007 | Angus Kidman

Posted on 04/12/2007 8:20:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce

Computer makers have been told they'll no longer be able to get Windows XP OEM by the end of this year, despite consumer resistance to Vista and its compatibility problems.

By early 2008, Microsoft's contracts with computer makers will require companies to only sell Vista-loaded machines. "The OEM version of XP Professional goes next January," said Frank Luburic, senior ThinkPad product manager for Lenovo. "At that point, they'll have no choice."

Despite Microsoft's relentless promotion of Vista, manufacturers are still seeing plenty of demand from customers for systems preloaded with XP, especially in the finicky SOHO market.

In a recent post on its Direct2Dell blog, Dell reaffirmed to concerned customers that it wasn't about to force small business users -- who typically purchase PCs piecemeal, rather than in large enterprise-style orders -- to shift to Vista, which has experienced a less-than-stellar reaction from many buyers because of driver issues and moderately beefy hardware requirements.

"Dell recognizes the needs of small business customers and understands that more time is needed to transition to a new operating system," the post read in part. "The plan is to continue offering Windows XP on select Dimension and Inspiron systems until later this [northern] summer."

"From a local perspective, the post was a reminder more than an announcement," Dell ANZ corporate communications manager Paul McKeon told APC.

"This was something we'd always planned during the transition phase since businesses will have different time frames to adopt the new OS. If you're a consumer, you're unlikely to be managing more than say 2.4 OS images at home, so it's less of an issue"

There's general agreement amongst PC resellers that Vista has provided a minor boost to PC sales, but hasn't produced blockbuster numbers. A similar story applies in the retail space. Figures from marketing consultancy GfK suggest that after an initial sales surge, around 1500 copies of Vista are now being sold through Australian retailers each week, according to a recent report in the AFR.

While Dell's post suggested it wouldn't be promoting Vista systems to the home market, manufacturers still have the option of selling XP-based systems for consumers this year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: bloatware; microsoft; vista; xp
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To: ShadowAce

The IT world force engineers to give up their UNIX based design boxes ( SGI, Sun, Dec Alpha- ect) and move to windows NT for compatability - now we’re on XP - we’ve tested design software on VISTA and because most design softare is OPEN GL based it runs THREE to FIFTY times SLOWER on Vista.. The Wally’s of the world will love it.. Sorry Boss it’s still crunching on my new Terahertz Terabyte Terrible Vista machine.


81 posted on 04/12/2007 10:02:33 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: stompk
"...and I won’t load linux (again) at home. toooo much hassle. not intuitive, too many versions to get consistent support, drivers are hard to find, lack of software, family members are completely lost, and when it does work, I feel it lacks a lot of the fit, finish and features of Windows.

Of course I was probably about the last person I know of to get off of W2K and now that I am on XP, I will only come off of that kicking and screaming. I gave up on being bleeding-edge in the computer industry 15 years ago."

DITTO

jw

82 posted on 04/12/2007 10:18:48 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: DonaldC
Reposting since the others bandwidth got exceeded...
83 posted on 04/12/2007 10:22:11 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: EagleUSA
Other than price and the cockamamie way that Apple treats moving music files around....I have no problems going to a Mac.

In fact, Boot Camp may be the piece that actually makes up for those drawbacks and gets me over to a Mac.

84 posted on 04/12/2007 10:22:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Between the release of 10.1 (the first usable OS X, it was a free upgrade because of 10.0 problems) and the inability of Macs to boot OS 9 was about a year.

A little bit more but not much. OS 10.1 came out in Sept. 2001 and the last tower that could boot OS 9 came out in June 2003. BUT that computer, the Power Mac G4/1.25 GHz, was sold into 2004 IIRC.

Of course, a lot would argue that the first usable OS X was 10.3, which came out in late 2003.

85 posted on 04/12/2007 10:31:28 AM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Moose4
Let's just say I lied when I said I have a "passing curiousity" in EVE Online here. I'm in the market for a new laptop, and I am curious about specs, that's all.
86 posted on 04/12/2007 10:35:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ShadowAce
Computer makers have been told they'll no longer be able to get Windows XP OEM by the end of this year, despite consumer resistance to Vista and its compatibility problems. By early 2008, Microsoft's contracts with computer makers will require companies to only sell Vista-loaded machines.

LMAO, typical anti-Microsoft bunk, couldn't even get the first two sentences to add up. What's amazing is you didn't post it from your usual foreign "sources".

87 posted on 04/12/2007 10:37:30 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: dfwgator

ROFL there’s already more users of Vista than all versions of Linux combined.


88 posted on 04/12/2007 10:39:41 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Nice!!


89 posted on 04/12/2007 10:43:20 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Boat Rocker
I even dropped one of the powerbooks about 8 feet onto a concrete floor (by accident) It works like it did new four years ago.

That is one HELL of a variation on the "System Restore" theme.      =;^)

90 posted on 04/12/2007 10:50:11 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Microsoft does have to stop selling XP at some point to get on with Vista.

Only under the assumption that Vista has something to offer that couldn't be put into XP. Invalid assumption, of course.

91 posted on 04/12/2007 10:53:20 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: AntiFed

Ubuntu, Fedora, or SuSE


92 posted on 04/12/2007 10:54:02 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Cold Heat
...or I will be certain to pitch a huge tantrum...

Do you suppose Microsoft hears any better than, say, Congress or the President?

93 posted on 04/12/2007 10:54:50 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: N3WBI3

You obviously don’t have much experience with enterprise desktop deployment if you think this is any sort of an issue for an IT department to deal with. What’s even funnier your supposed solution Linux pretty much requires you upgrade EVERY two years to keep up, while Windows XP will be supported until 2014. Name one Linux product shipping today that guarantees security updates till 2014. You’ve got 300 different versions to choose from, surely there is one is currently promising patches till 2014?


94 posted on 04/12/2007 10:55:22 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
What’s even funnier your supposed solution Linux pretty much requires you upgrade EVERY two years to keep up

two Problems with That

1) My Ideal Solution on the desktop is Apple not Linux despite your obsessive screaming to the contrary
2) RedHat Linux has a seven year support cycle for RHLE which includes their workstation so if you set up some RHEL5 workstations today you could wait five years until you started to upgrade. (Were you ignorant of this or jut lying?)

Name one Linux product shipping today that guarantees security updates till 2014.

Red Hat Enterprise 5 Will be under Full Support (Bug Fixes, Enhancements, and Security patches) Until March of 2014.

96 posted on 04/12/2007 11:08:11 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: Tall_Texan
Long live Windows 2000 Pro. Works on practically any program written for Windows and I have the disc with code so I can reinstall it whenever I need. I just make sure *never* to visit Microsoft so they can’t update it with spyware and crapware.

Win2K Pro for me too, both at work and at home (except for my linux machines...one to play with, and one dedicated to running Folding@Home...)

97 posted on 04/12/2007 11:10:53 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: N3WBI3
Red Hat Enterprise 5 Will be under Full Support (Bug Fixes, Enhancements, and Security patches) Until March of 2014.

But that costs a whole lot more than XP, you have to pay a subscription cost for every single year you use it. Plus XP has been out since 2001, RHEL5 has just been released and they're going to cut it off in 2014, after charging all that money for it? Sounds like a rip off compared to XP, which according to the despair shown here everyone must love.

98 posted on 04/12/2007 11:22:07 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
Were you ignorant of this or jut lying

Obviously I asked a question, unlike you yesterday claiming it was q quote "fact" that Dell had already cut off shipments of XP, which are actually going to continue into at least 2008. You've also been caught claiming Microsoft has cut off support for Windows 2000 when again the truth is the are supplying patches till 2010. It's pretty hilarious watching try to criticize Windows support when it's actually much cheaper and lasts much longer than Red Hat's support does.

99 posted on 04/12/2007 11:43:20 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: GingisK
Only under the assumption that Vista has something to offer that couldn't be put into XP. Invalid assumption, of course.

It's not just about anything that Vista gives, but from Microsoft's point of view it's about support. It would cost a lot of money to put equivalent features in both XP and Vista. You saw they didn't want to do IE7 for XP until people got pissed about it. It also costs Microsoft money to continue to support XP for much longer, and ending OEM sales is the first step towards that end.

In any case, XP will be available until January 31, 2009.

100 posted on 04/12/2007 12:50:30 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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