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It's The End Of The Line (woman loses 5 year legal battle to become mother using her own embryos)
Skynews ^ | 4-10-2007 | staff writer

Posted on 04/10/2007 1:08:12 PM PDT by bedolido

A woman left infertile after cancer treatment says she feels "distraught" after losing a five-year legal battle to try to become a mother using her own embryos. Natallie Evans had mounted a "last chance" appeal to keep the six frozen embryos, which were fertilised by her ex-partner. But the European Court of Human Rights ruled that her rights to become a mother did not outweigh the rights of her ex-boyfriend, Howard Johnston, not to become the father of her children. Ms Evans, 35, from Melksham, Wiltshire, and Mr Johnston, 30, from Cheltenham, embarked on IVF in 2001 after she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: embryos; end; frozen; line
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1 posted on 04/10/2007 1:08:14 PM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido

Flame war in 3... 2... 1...


2 posted on 04/10/2007 1:11:21 PM PDT by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: bedolido
THIS is the kind of stuff they review in the European Court of Human Rights!!?? They have no time to look at cases brought by survivors of Beslan and 'Nord-Ost', or by Khodorkovsky and Trepashkin, and yet they have time for this?

The EU is a parody of itself.
3 posted on 04/10/2007 1:16:55 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: bedolido

The father decided to become a father when he agreed to fertilize the eggs. He’s already a father. I don’t see how any court can find a right to not be a father after conception. If the embryo were implanted in the mother’s uterus, would he still have the right not to be a father? No.

Also, couldn’t the woman have saved unfertilized eggs from her ovaries?


4 posted on 04/10/2007 1:17:28 PM PDT by KingKenrod
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To: bedolido
I guess she didn't want to sign a waiver absolving him of all responsibility for the rug-rats?
5 posted on 04/10/2007 1:17:42 PM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: KingKenrod

Science has not yet perfected a way to freeze and thaw human eggs successfully. Only embryos.


6 posted on 04/10/2007 1:22:46 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: bedolido

So the EU doesn’t do jack shit about ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia except beg for the US to send forces...in their own damn back yard....but they give priority to this?


7 posted on 04/10/2007 1:26:02 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
I guess she didn't want to sign a waiver absolving him of all responsibility for the rug-rats?

Even our courts have voided such waivers, so it wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on.

8 posted on 04/10/2007 1:28:27 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

Yep. She actually wanted him to pay....


9 posted on 04/10/2007 1:30:51 PM PDT by Freeport
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To: org.whodat

ADOPT..ADOPT.....I agree that the Father should have a say in this.


10 posted on 04/10/2007 1:32:51 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: KingKenrod
The father decided to become a father when he agreed to fertilize the eggs.

Actually, the court defined these embryos as not children with this ruling. Without the concept of the embryos being children, there is no fatherhood.

What a twisted world we live in.

11 posted on 04/10/2007 1:34:23 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
“I guess she didn’t want to sign a waiver absolving him of all responsibility for the rug-rats?”

even if she offered, I personally wouldn’t trust it. look at all the “sperm donors” who gave anonymously at clinics, and how they are being sued ( and losing ) for child support.

12 posted on 04/10/2007 1:34:48 PM PDT by stompk
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To: stompk
...look at all the “sperm donors” who gave anonymously at clinics, and how they are being sued ( and losing ) for child support.

Sometimes, even when a DNA test proves a man is not the father, he can still be forced to pay support.
'Duped dads' fight back in paternity cases
13 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:17 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: bedolido

“It gets curiouser and......”


14 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:50 PM PDT by brotherWesUpNorth
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To: bedolido

She should have frozen a couple embryos with donated sperm.


15 posted on 04/10/2007 2:32:02 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: bedolido

Well, what was the contract? Were the terms of the embryo clinic that both mother and father had to agree to release the embryos? If so, too bad for her.


16 posted on 04/10/2007 5:35:52 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: KingKenrod

Do I detect a cra-a-ack in the wall?

Is this the start of a new trend where biological fathers also get to have a say in the question of bringing an embryo to full term?


17 posted on 04/10/2007 6:01:16 PM PDT by Melinator
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To: bedolido

IVF should be banned to begin with.

If you can’t have a baby the normal way, forget about it.

And while I’m at it, artificial insemination is adultery uniless the donor is the woman’s husband.

And even then, it’s strange.


18 posted on 04/10/2007 10:37:42 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: struwwelpeter; DesScorp

You’ve fallen for a common (and understandable) mistake - to assume that the European Court of Human Rights is something to do with the EU. In fact the Court has no connection whatever with the EU. It’s part of a much older organisation, the Council of Europe, which was founded in 1949 following a Churchill initiative, actively supported by the US. It has over 40 nations in its membership, much more than the EU. It has no political role.


19 posted on 04/11/2007 5:17:11 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
Looks like there is some hope, after all:
http://nord-ost.org/kratkie-novosti/strasburgskiy-sud-prinyal-zhalobu-postradavshih-ot-terakta-na-dub.html

Strasbourg court accepts complaint from victims of the terror act at Dubrovka



From RIA Novosti, 13.04.07 (16:46) http://rian.ru/society/20070413/63605941.html

The European Court of Human Rights accepted for study a complaint from 58 victims of the act of terror in the theatrical center at Dubrovka, according to a report made to RIA ‘News’ by Igor Trunov, the plaintiffs’ lawyer.

“We sent in the complaint four years ago, and finally the court has decided to examine it,” stated the defender.

He explained that the complaint was made to the Strasbourg court not just by Russian citizens, but by citizens of Ukraine, Holland, and Kazakhstan as well.

Terrorists seized the theatrical center at Dubrovka where the musical ‘Nord-Ost’ was playing on October 23rd, 2002. 923 people were taken hostage. On October 26th, during the course of a special operation, all 40 terrorists were destroyed. 130 other people died during the act of terror, and more than 700 were injured.

“In reply to our complaint, the European court states that the defendant – the Russian government – must state its objections by June 27th, 2007,” added Trunov.

The complaint to the European Court of Human Rights was made on August 18th, 2003. In the complaint the advocates asked that each victim be paid 50 thousand Euros compensation for violations of their human rights.

In the opinion of the plaintiffs, the Russian courts, in examining their lawsuits, “violated the rights of the applicants to an impartial, independent and fair hearing, as well as effective legal protection.”

20 posted on 04/13/2007 11:55:54 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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