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HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE
Email | 04-04-07 | Raymond S. Kraft

Posted on 04/05/2007 9:58:05 AM PDT by pgkdan

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I I got this in an email today and thought that it was well worth sharing. It' is pretty long but well worth the time to read. The author makes his case succinctly and then at the end asks that we share this with high school and University students...because they're not taught this perspective. A lot of the geezers i know need to be reminded of this but it's true that most kids haven't got a clue what kind of sacrifices were made in the last century. They also have't a clue as to what's at stake in this century.

Maybe something like this can help open some eyes.

1 posted on 04/05/2007 9:58:06 AM PDT by pgkdan
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Post it on DU and see how many minds you change. It won’t last til the end of the hour before it’s pulled.........


2 posted on 04/05/2007 10:04:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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It’s difficult to understand why the American left does not grasp this. They favor human rights, civil rights, liberty and freedom, but evidently not for Iraqis.

The Left does grasp this.
The Left doesn't really care about human rights.
The Left doesn't really care about civil rights.
The Left doesn't care about Liberty.
The Left doesn't care about Freedom.

The Left want power over people. They think that Islamic destruction of the West will create an era where the Left will have an easier time gaining power. The American Left is rooting for the Islamic terrorists.

3 posted on 04/05/2007 10:06:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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"1. We can defeat the Jihad now, before it gets nuclear weapons. 2. We can fight the Jihad later, after it gets nuclear weapons (which may be as early as next year, if Iran’s progress on nuclear weapons is what Iran claims it is). 3. We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the Middle East, now, in Europe in the next few years or decades, and ultimately in, America. 4. Or, we can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the Jihad is more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has dominated France and Germany and maybe most of the rest of Europe. It will, of course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much bloodier"

I wish that just once someone would confront Bill Maher with these facts. He's too busy screaming about how incompetent Bush is to address the reality of this threat.

4 posted on 04/05/2007 10:10:54 AM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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Congress unanimously declared war on Japan, and the following day on Germany, which had not yet attacked us

The U.S. declared war on Germany (and Italy) only after these countries declared war on the U.S.

5 posted on 04/05/2007 10:11:26 AM PDT by Prokopton
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Nancy Pelosi has a fifth option. Withdraw, ignore the problem. Actually, it looks more like Option # 3 or 4.
6 posted on 04/05/2007 10:27:04 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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This writer put the most insulting, negative spin he could an America and WWII, I skipped the rest of the article.


7 posted on 04/05/2007 10:29:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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If the US can create a reasonably democratic and stable Iraq, then we have an “England” in the Middle East...

Before a "Middle East" is created in England?

8 posted on 04/05/2007 10:40:27 AM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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“Islam is having its Inquisition and its Reformation, but it is not known yet which will win — the Inquisitors, or the Reformationists.”

I hate to be so gloomy, but during my 20 years in the ME I have observed that the “inquisitors” overwhelmingly outnumber the “reformationists”. Besides, the inquisitors are much more militant than the docile reformationists. Any change in Islam will not come from within but will HAVE to come from an outside source.


9 posted on 04/05/2007 10:41:56 AM PDT by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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America’s only allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada, Australia, and Russia.

Bah. Between us, Britain, and Russia, that was all the allies required to defeat Germany and Japan. That was realized, even at the time.

10 posted on 04/05/2007 10:45:39 AM PDT by r9etb
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If the Inquisition wins, then the Wahhabis, the Jihadis, will control the Middle East, the OPEC oil, and the US, European, and Asian economies. The techno-industrial economies will be at the mercy of OPEC — not an OPEC dominated by the educated, rational Saudis of today, but an OPEC dominated by the Jihadis.

Uh.. Not quite. The huge assumption here is that innovation will not respond to market forces as it always has in free nations. We can make oil from coal here in the States, but it costs something like $90 per barrel to do so. Yes, this is more expensive, but we are hardly at the mercy of a jihadist cabal.

11 posted on 04/05/2007 10:51:10 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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The Declaration of War wasn’t unanimous; Congresswoman Jeanette Rankin, (R-Montana) voted against it.


12 posted on 04/05/2007 11:22:11 AM PDT by Grut
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“It’s difficult to understand why the American left does not grasp this.”......

the American Left...is in its own “jihad” against the “Christian Right”....and all things Western....they see Radical Islam as a potential ally...not realizing that under Sharia...their heads role first...


13 posted on 04/05/2007 11:58:01 AM PDT by mo
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Bah. Between us, Britain, and Russia, that was all the allies required to defeat Germany and Japan. That was realized, even at the time.

This whole essay is on the importance of mainataining a proper historical perspective. Put the comment about the paucity of allies in the context of today's arguements by the liberals that the US is destined to lose because we have no allies...that we're acting like cowboys becasue we don't have our European allies on our side...etc, etc, etc.

The point he's making is that we didn't have a world wide coalition during WWII and didn't need one and we don't need one now.

14 posted on 04/05/2007 12:24:18 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t post on DU.


15 posted on 04/05/2007 12:25:21 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ansel12
This writer put the most insulting, negative spin he could an America and WWII, I skipped the rest of the article.

Sorry...it was obviously over your head.

16 posted on 04/05/2007 12:26:38 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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You couldn’t, from your computer, anyway. They check for FR cookies and if it has one, you ain’t allowed back..........


17 posted on 04/05/2007 12:27:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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They check for FR cookies and if it has one, you ain’t allowed back..........

You've got to be kidding me! So much for a free and open debate with the left!

18 posted on 04/05/2007 12:30:45 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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Not just FR, but other “pubbie” sites as well.......


19 posted on 04/05/2007 12:31:50 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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“Sorry...it was obviously over your head.”

That’s an odd response, and untrue.


20 posted on 04/05/2007 12:33:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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