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Giuliani Surmounts Expectations In N.H.
Boston Globe ^ | 4/4/07

Posted on 04/04/2007 5:14:11 AM PDT by areafiftyone

HAMPTON FALLS, N.H. -- The guests at Thomas and Ellen Christo 's home on New Hampshire's Seacoast on Monday night knew Rudolph W. Giuliani's history well -- his three marriages, his support for abortion rights, even recent news of a federal investigation targeting his former business partner and police commissioner, Bernard Kerik .

But as Giuliani walked under red, white, and blue bunting to arrive at the first New Hampshire house party of his presidential campaign, camera flashes popped and the crowd brimmed with anticipation. When the former mayor of New York whipped off his glasses, stood in front of an American flag, and pronounced himself ready to take the fight to the terrorists, people nodded .

"If I was a terrorist, I'd be really nervous of Rudy Giuliani," said Ron Vars of East Kingston, who owns a telecommunications brokerage. "I don't care about this personal stuff; he's a leader. I have an ex-wife. I don't have two of them, but that's OK."

Political observers have long predicted that Giuliani's early strong support in the 2008 Republican presidential primary would dissipate as conservative voters learned about his past support for gun control, gay rights, and abortion rights. In addition, the thinking went, some conservatives would be repelled to learn of his sometimes chaotic personal life and the tarnished records of some of his business associates.

Yet as details about Giuliani's life and record have emerged in politically astute New Hampshire, many voters say their support remains firm. They maintain that his success in New York City and his views on taxes and fighting terrorism -- shaped by the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 -- outweigh any personal foibles and positions on social issues that stray from the GOP party line.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: autocrat; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; gungrabber; julieannie; liberal; rino; rudy
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To: OldFriend

I think it’s adorable. And it’s nice they aren’t embarrassed. Most men would be.


81 posted on 04/04/2007 7:38:17 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I got two - once for posting to many duplicate threads and one for posting from a website we weren’t supposed to without a link. LOL! I was a baaaad girl!


82 posted on 04/04/2007 7:40:01 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Peach

Guess a civil union is in their future!


83 posted on 04/04/2007 7:42:14 AM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: dirtboy

Another post pulled. LOL.


84 posted on 04/04/2007 7:59:59 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: RabidBartender; OldFriend; Peach
They just can't stay on topic, can they?

But when you're pushing a liberal on a conservative website, I guess you have to resort to pure nonsense, misprepresentations, violations of forum etiquitte and personal attacks like we've seen here.

85 posted on 04/04/2007 8:06:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: areafiftyone

For a week each? Wow, that sucks


87 posted on 04/04/2007 8:22:03 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Yup! But I learned my lesson in a way. I’m pretty careful now. At least I try to be.


88 posted on 04/04/2007 8:22:40 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Astute point. George W. Bush has that same “comfortable in his own skin” personal self-confidence; his father did not.


89 posted on 04/04/2007 9:08:31 AM PDT by karnage
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To: All
"Political observers have long predicted that Giuliani's early strong support in the 2008 Republican presidential primary would dissipate as conservative voters learned about his past support for gun control, gay rights, and abortion rights. In addition, the thinking went, some conservatives would be repelled to learn of his sometimes chaotic personal life and the tarnished records of some of his business associates.

Yet as details about Giuliani's life and record have emerged in politically astute New Hampshire, many voters say their support remains firm. They maintain that his success in New York City and his views on taxes and fighting terrorism -- shaped by the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 -- outweigh any personal foibles and positions on social issues that stray from the GOP party line."

90 posted on 04/04/2007 9:22:25 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: tkathy
The old rules no longer apply. Rudy connects with those who get it.

You mean principle no longer applies, only star power and the quest for power does.

Those "getting it" are the Kool-Aid drinkers willing to abandon conservatism just to get a Republican in the White House or defeat Hillary Clinton.

More and more there is no difference between many Republicans and "conservatives" and Democrats and liberals.

91 posted on 04/04/2007 9:43:54 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Fierce Allegiance; OldFriend; Spiff

Let’s not forget how he criticized policies to bring down illegal immigration...or how he avidly supports gun control...doesn’t sound much like “national security” to me.


92 posted on 04/04/2007 9:47:05 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008. Audio, Video, and Quotes in my profile.)
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To: tkathy
God help our country if the white flag dims get total control over the country.

God help our country if a liberal of either party gets in the White House.

It's little amusing mentioning God and beleiving He would support the candidacy of a thrice-married adulterer that has supported publicly financiing the slaughter of unborn children, doesn't have the moral clarity to figure out partial-birth infanticide should be illegal, has received money from pro-abortion organizations, marched in every gay parade pride as mayor of New York and believes homosexuality is good and normal.

At least have the courtesy of leaving God out of it if you're going to support someone so morally depraved.

93 posted on 04/04/2007 9:48:05 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: ClaireSolt
He was good last night, and that dazzling smile at the end is a knockout punch.

That excuses his record?

94 posted on 04/04/2007 9:48:32 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008. Audio, Video, and Quotes in my profile.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Rudy's popularity is simple: He is viewed as a leader.

Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Mao and Saddam have all been viewed as great leaders. Being a leader, in and of itself, isn't necessarily a good thing.

Liberalism keeps winning because too many "conservatives" are too stupid to look beyond personal attributes or so desperate to beat Democrats, they elect liberals and unprincipled RINOs to office.

One has to wonder if there is really any reason to even care who wins elections anymore when there is so little difference between the candidates and parties.

95 posted on 04/04/2007 9:56:39 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: noname07718
Your tag line is pretty absurd. Yes but it's pretty accurate. On social issues, they agree on several items. That's absurd!
96 posted on 04/04/2007 12:27:01 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Mao and Saddam have all been viewed as great leaders.All I'm saying is Guiliano is popular because he is viewed as a leader. Until such time that a conservative arives on the scene who exhibits the ability to lead and has name recognition beyond his home state, Guiliano will be the guy.
97 posted on 04/04/2007 12:44:48 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Jake The Goose
“....Rudy’s appearance last night on H&C (Fox) was very very strong. Owning mistakes, and putting results into the equation was a solid move on his part......”

I agree. I thought he did great.

98 posted on 04/04/2007 12:48:05 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: veronica
“...Absolutely. His joyousness will be in stark contrast to Hillary’s dour stridency....”

Isn’t THAT the truth! I just can’t imagine 4 or 8 years of looking at her sourpuss and listening to ‘that voice.’

99 posted on 04/04/2007 12:54:39 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: KATIE-O

“listening to ‘that voice.’”

A buddy of mine refers to her voice as: “first wife voice”


100 posted on 04/04/2007 12:57:11 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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