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1 posted on 04/03/2007 3:24:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 04/03/2007 3:25:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The heroic Duricy was a victim of what military experts call the "weapon systems procurement holidays of the 1990s" – when the U.S. government took advantage of the end of the Cold War, called it a "peace dividend" and didn't appropriate the necessary funds to modernize its aging fleet of military planes.

A/K/A as the Clinton Reign of Error ...

3 posted on 04/03/2007 3:28:03 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The heroic Duricy was a victim of what military experts call the "weapon systems procurement holidays of the 1990s" – when the U.S. government took advantage of the end of the Cold War, called it a "peace dividend" and didn't appropriate the necessary funds to modernize its aging fleet of military planes.

AKA "the Clinton Legacy."

5 posted on 04/03/2007 3:35:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Eisenhower-Era Planes Still Defending U.S.

Yeah, that's what happens when leftist appeasement-oriented surrender monkeys keep cutting the defense budget. Apparently, they didn't get the memo - it takes a strong offense to create a strong defense.

Their efforts to undercut the War in Iraq is Part II of their strategery. Part I was to allow the US military weapons systems to age and become decrepit. Part II is to focus on trying to force our military to capitulate a war they haven't lost . . . . . . . . YET!!!

7 posted on 04/03/2007 3:38:42 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

OMG the M-2 .50 cal is nearly 90 years old !!!


8 posted on 04/03/2007 3:41:41 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Pelosi Democrats agree with Al Queda more often than they agree with President Bush.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We could purchase some block 60 F-16s now and some new F-15s.
However, what we really need in another 100 Billion in the Defense Budget.
17 posted on 04/03/2007 4:12:21 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lets build more B-52’s.!!!!!!....


18 posted on 04/03/2007 4:16:58 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (Cold War Vet==Is it Bush's fault Yet??...Please help this Fourum Now!..Before its to late!!!...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All these planes are youngsters, compared to the oldest ship in commission in the U.S. Navy. http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/


19 posted on 04/03/2007 4:24:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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“I’m flying my grandfather’s airplane” said the young pilot!


20 posted on 04/03/2007 4:29:03 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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Metal fatigue is what grounds most old planes:

C130 loses its wings

21 posted on 04/03/2007 4:30:03 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Our strategic bomber fleet may be old but it still does the job.


25 posted on 04/03/2007 4:35:31 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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>>>Big B-52 bombers, which played a critical role in America’s recent efforts to liberate Iraq and stabilize Afghanistan, are over 45 years old.<<<

The B-52 frame and shell is old—the last B52 was completed in October 1962—but the plane has been significantly upgraded over the years with modern electronics and weaponry. It is still a remarkable plane, even by today’s standards. It travels at 650 mph at a ceiling of 50,000 feet, and has a range of 8,800 miles without refueling. It can carry up to 70,000 pounds of bombs and weaponry.

By contrast, the B-17 Flying Fortress used over Europe in World War II had a cruise speed of 182 mph, a ceiling of approximately 35,000 feet, and a maximum range of 2,000 miles (with no bombs). It could carry 4,500 pounds of bombs on what were considered long-range missions of that day of approximately 800 miles.


28 posted on 04/03/2007 4:54:49 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau (God deliver our nation from the disease of liberalism!)
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At least they aren’t fueling up Star Fighters, B-36’s and B-47’s.

OTOH, if the Pentagon had any horse sense left, they would buy several thousand McClellan saddles, just in case.


30 posted on 04/03/2007 4:57:04 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The heroic Duricy was a victim of what military experts call the "weapon systems procurement holidays of the 1990s" – when the U.S. government took advantage of the end of the Cold War, called it a "peace dividend" and didn't appropriate the necessary funds to modernize its aging fleet of military planes.

Criminal negligence on the part of congress and the klintoon administration.

31 posted on 04/03/2007 4:57:58 PM PDT by pfflier
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...and the phrase ‘slow bleed’ finds another meaning...


33 posted on 04/03/2007 5:15:16 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I still see a DC-2 (c-47)flying around here. I also hear there are Catalina PBYs around.


36 posted on 04/03/2007 5:51:58 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Worry not about the Presidential candidates , worry about the people they appoint to run things.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I flew in the KC-135A back in the 70’s and 80’s and most of the aircraft were as old as I was. We called it the “steam jet” because it used 5,581 lbs of de-mineralized water for thrust augmentation to our under powered J-57 engines. At least the “R” model has plenty of power with the new CMF-56 engine. I buried a lot of friends that didn’t make take-off roles because they had a catastrophic loss of power. Boeing makes one hell of an airplane, but it is time for the idiot’s in Congress to pony up some funding or forget about every being able to project “Airpower” anywhere in the world. But then again I’m sure that is the Liberals master plan. The Air Force is currently down sizing their support career fields to buy the F-22 “Raptor” and the F-35 “Joint-Strike Fighter.” Pretty soon the Air Force should be able to anything with almost nothing (a quote from the Jimmy Carter days).


37 posted on 04/03/2007 5:59:27 PM PDT by KC-10A BOOMER (If flying two airplanes in close vertical proximity is not safe! Why did I do it for a living?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
BUFs (B-52s) and KC-135s Tankers will always be around. The AF is planning to re-furb the few BUFs left with four of the same fuel sipping GE turbo-fan engines that are now on most KC-135s.

And would have done so sooner if Clinton hadn't gutted the Military's Reserve, long-reach and nuclear deterance and sent that money to government set-asides!

My AF Reserve Unit has had GE upgraded KC-135s for nearly three years and though the planes are nearly as old (52) as I am, they are very low maintenace and fly like a dream!


Jack.
46 posted on 04/03/2007 8:57:38 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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