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Hillary plots 9/11 attack on Rudy
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 04/01/07 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 03/31/2007 4:40:37 PM PDT by Pokey78

The first face-to-face confrontation of the 2008 presidential race is looming over a US Senate inquiry into health problems suffered by workers at New York’s ground zero after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

As the chairwoman of a Senate subcommittee investigating complaints that workers were misled about air quality after the collapse of the twin towers, Senator Hillary Clinton, the Democrat front-runner for the presidential nomination, confirmed last week that she is considering calling Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York and the leading Republican contender, to testify at a public hearing.

The health committee’s inquiry has presented Clinton with an intriguing political choice with potentially volatile repercussions for the presidential race. By calling Giuliani as a witness, she could place him in the awkward position of having to submit to her senatorial authority and face a grilling that might dent the heroic image he acquired for his response to the 9/11 attacks.

At the same time Democratic aides have acknowledged that Clinton might risk being accused of playing politics with a tragedy. Giuliani said last week that he was happy to testify “to anybody who has a fair mind about it” and is “approaching it from a nonpolitical point of view”.

Clinton said last week she was still “looking at all the people available to testify”. But other prominent New York Democrats have demanded Giuliani should answer questions about whether he could have done more as mayor to protect the workers who spent weeks digging in dust and dirt that is now considered to have been dangerously toxic.

“Who made decisions, if any, that resulted unnecessarily in a lot of people getting sick?” asked Congressman Jerrold Nadler, whose district includes the World Trade Center site.

The Senate inquiry follows claims by at least 9,000 New Yorkers that they are suffering from lung and stomach ailments they blame on the toxic rubble at ground zero. Their cause attracted national attention in January when Clinton invited the son of Cesar Borja, a stricken New York policeman, to attend President George W Bush’s state of the union address as her guest. Borja was waiting for a lung transplant but died of respiratory failure a few hours before Bush spoke.

Despite subsequent revelations that Borja may not have spent long periods working at ground zero, the health inquiry has become a potential embarrassment for Giuliani, who is increasingly being forced to defend the actions that made him a national icon. He was dubbed “America’s mayor” by Oprah Winfrey, the talk show host.

Last month Giuliani was fiercely criticised by a firemen’s union that has never forgiven him for halting the search for bodies. The mayor was anxious at the time that clean-up operations should begin, but more than five years later body parts are still being found around ground zero.

He has also been criticised for failing to provide the New York Fire Department with more modern communications equipment, which was requested after the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.

Sally Regenhard, whose son was one of the 343 firefighters killed in the attacks, said last week she had no problem if Giuliani ran for president on his record of reducing New York crime, “but when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem”.

Clinton has been swift to exploit her rival’s difficulties. She earned three standing ovations at a firemen’s convention in Washington this month and promised that, as president, she would “take care of the people who have taken care of us”.

Yet she has also been careful to avoid direct criticism of Giuliani, and several analysts have warned that a face-to-face challenge on his 9/11 record would be risky. “It’s not smart strategy. It’s too early,” Douglas Muzzio, a political science professor at Baruch College, told the New York Sun. Instead she should “take the high road”.

Behind the fencing over health issues lies mounting pressure on both Clinton and Giuliani camps to maintain the healthy opinion poll leads that each has staked out in the race for their respective party nominations. In a Gallup poll published last week by USA Today, Giuliani’s lead over Senator John McCain of Arizona had shrunk from 24 points at the beginning of March to nine points three weeks later.

The former mayor also faces a possible challenge from former senator Fred Thompson, a Hollywood actor turned conservative politician who shot from nil to 12 points in the same poll, simply by announcing that he was considering entering the race.

In the Gallup poll, Clinton’s lead over Senator Barack Obama, who is seeking to become the first African-American president, narrowed slightly from 14 points to 13 points.

On Thursday a new Time magazine poll gave Clinton only an eight point lead over Obama, with former senator John Edwards apparently benefiting from a major sympathy boost after the announcement that his wife’s cancer has become incurable. Edwards jumped nine points to 26 points, only four behind Obama.

If Clinton decides to call Giuliani as a witness, her health inquiry may turn into an intriguing preview of next year’s presidential debates. But the ex-mayor warned the senator last week that he expected any testimony about health issues at ground zero to be “above politics”, and he also reminded her he was a possible victim himself.

“I was probably there as often as anybody, as you know,” he said. “So any exposure to anything bad that anyone else has, I personally had.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abledanger; giuliani; gorelick; gorelickwall; hillary; hillaryscandals; rudy; rudygiuliani; weldon
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1 posted on 03/31/2007 4:40:37 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78

Love those dem show trials!


2 posted on 03/31/2007 4:44:28 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Pokey78

So she's going to hijack a plane and slam it into Guilianni?

I wouldn't put it past the DEMons.


3 posted on 03/31/2007 4:45:29 PM PDT by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: Pokey78

Keep your eye on that rear view mirror and sift through the rubble of things you can't do anything about. Sounds like a good way to assure that the future blindsides you again.


4 posted on 03/31/2007 4:48:52 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Pokey78
She'll be pummeled, though I don't think Rudy will be the one doing the pummeling.......
5 posted on 03/31/2007 4:50:06 PM PDT by b4its2late (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: Pokey78
As the chairwoman of a Senate subcommittee investigating complaints that workers were misled about air quality after the collapse of the twin towers

Nonesense. Rescue workers were fully aware of the hazards involved in their search and rescue effort after two of the tallest buildings in the world came crashing down due to a terrorist attack. It's called humanity, Hillary dear, something that you truly lack.

This woman is just dispicable. Nuff said.

6 posted on 03/31/2007 4:52:22 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Pokey78
Mrs. Bill Clinton must be doing this for the children.
It's justifiable if it's for the children.
It must certainly be for the children.

Nevermind.

7 posted on 03/31/2007 4:53:22 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Pokey78
Inconsistencies abound. Consider: Last month Giuliani was fiercely criticised by a firemen’s union that has never forgiven him for halting the search for bodies. and “Who made decisions, if any, that resulted unnecessarily in a lot of people getting sick?”

OK, so Rudy says to the cops and firemen, "people, you have to get out of there. The air is toxic, we don't know what is present there. We have MOPP 5 suits on the way but it will take three days. Unfortunately you can only be in the zone for 1/2 hour a day even with the suits. Stop your rescue efforts and wait."

Now go back to the first sentence I pulled. They firemen's union is mad that the search was ended after how long? No, this is pure political monday-morning rehash.

8 posted on 03/31/2007 4:58:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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“but when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem”.

Seems a bit harsh.

9 posted on 03/31/2007 4:58:47 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Pokey78

“Who made decisions, if any, that resulted unnecessarily in a lot of people getting sick?” asked Congressman Jerrold Nadler, whose district includes the World Trade Center site."

What's Jerry gonna do, sit on Rudy and crush him if he doesn't 'fess up to some made-up crime?

Photo of the extra-large Jerry:

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2006/06/19/ba_nadler01.jpg


10 posted on 03/31/2007 4:59:50 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Pokey78

Mrs. Bill Clinton would be wise to keep her ugly mouth shut about 9/11. If she's counting on a show trial, it will backfire big time.


12 posted on 03/31/2007 5:15:52 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Pokey78
If Clinton decides to call Giuliani as a witness, her health inquiry may turn into an intriguing preview of next year’s presidential debates. But the ex-mayor warned the senator last week that he expected any testimony about health issues at ground zero to be “above politics”, and he also reminded her he was a possible victim himself.

“I was probably there as often as anybody, as you know,” he said. “So any exposure to anything bad that anyone else has, I personally had.”

Yes, Mrs. Bill Clinton, except for the funerals for police, fireman and others caught in the 9/11 terrorist attack, I was there every day for the 180 days after 9/11... How many days did you spend in or near the pit?"

14 posted on 03/31/2007 5:32:45 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: Pokey78

The show would sure beat Anna Nicole reruns 24/7.


15 posted on 03/31/2007 5:37:10 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Miss Didi

No doubt the "Jersey Girls" will be back in the news, doing whatever they can to help the Hildabeast defeat Giuliani. There are several thousand people who are spouses or immediate family members of someone who died on 9/11, but the media has decided that the opinions of a tiny handful are the only ones that count.


16 posted on 03/31/2007 5:43:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Pokey78

I'm sure Rudy will talk his way out of any problems concerning this issue.


17 posted on 03/31/2007 5:43:53 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: Pokey78

Hillary tangles with Rudy at her own peril.

Intellectually and rhetorically she is a lightweight. Rudy will blow her out of the water, and she will never know what hit her.


18 posted on 03/31/2007 5:48:58 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Cincinna

Hillary! really does have a tin ear on this type of thing. I think of the horror of that time, and the desperate search for possible survivors. She's be nuts to try to make political hay from this.


19 posted on 03/31/2007 5:58:39 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Pokey78

As we saw from the young man who accompanied her heinous to the SOTU address, the fraudsters are lined up with their hands out.....crying.....more money......more money......more money!


20 posted on 03/31/2007 6:03:14 PM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

We have crazed freepers praising hitlery, praising the NYSlimes as second only to the Holy Bible, and embracing every lunatic on the face of the earth who would blame Rudy rather than the terrorists for bringing down the WTC.


21 posted on 03/31/2007 6:05:57 PM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: Pokey78

juliani bowed out and let hillary have that senate seat.

uh duh! it's a pubbie stupid.


22 posted on 03/31/2007 6:07:31 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Pokey78

She should hire Joey Greco to see if those rumors about Bill are true.


23 posted on 03/31/2007 6:09:00 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

I think calling her Mrs. Bill Clinton is great. It will only serve to irritate her and show the truth. She is really not her own person.


24 posted on 03/31/2007 6:15:10 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: OldFriend
We have crazed freepers praising hitlery, praising the NYSlimes as second only to the Holy Bible, and embracing every lunatic on the face of the earth who would blame Rudy rather than the terrorists for bringing down the WTC.

No wonder we lose elections, we're our own worst enemies.

btw - thanks for the reply, I was beginning to think that all rationale had flown out the window around here, and that I'd get flamed for my response to post #11

25 posted on 03/31/2007 6:29:21 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Pokey78

If it happens and gets political, Hillary will be handed her breakfast and lunch.


26 posted on 03/31/2007 6:40:39 PM PDT by Gop1040
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Even a broken clock (Hillary) is right twice a day.

"In another time, another era, Rudy would be a staunch Democrat upholding American values"

He's a democrat today as well, hijacking the republican party... It's a pity you don't see that...

27 posted on 03/31/2007 7:09:03 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Pokey78
Julie-Annie and Hillary are on the same team...


28 posted on 03/31/2007 7:11:52 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Pokey78

I don't like Rudy but I'm hoping he puts Hillary in her place over this. She has no business politicizing 9/11, when her husband's policies led directly to the tragedy.


29 posted on 03/31/2007 7:11:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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To: OldFriend

See #27... No one is praising Hillary.


30 posted on 03/31/2007 7:13:11 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Save it for another Rudy thread, FRiend.

On this issue, Rudy deserves our support.

31 posted on 03/31/2007 7:14:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"She has no business politicizing 9/11"

The person who is politicizing 9/11 is Rudy. That's his ONLY claim to fame, and the more she attacks him on this the better.

Otherwise the REAL republicans will have to, and that will be unseemly.

32 posted on 03/31/2007 7:17:30 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Why does he deserve our support? Do you think that any other mayor of a large city would have been any less outspoken had they been the target of 9-11?

I would submit that even the mayor of Dearborn MI would have been outspoken about the attack.


33 posted on 03/31/2007 7:23:48 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: babygene

You've got to be kidding me. Siding with Hiterly is 1000x worse than siding with Guliani on any issue. Ever.

Guliani may be considered a RINO by some, but Hiterly is a frigging socialist and a true danger to this country and the Constitution. She makes her husband look like a conservative. This woman is pure evil.

With that said, if Hitlery is stupid enough to go after Guiliani she will get her head handed to her. Her camp knows that. They won't go after Rudy.


34 posted on 03/31/2007 7:29:05 PM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: babygene

I don't support Rudy.


35 posted on 03/31/2007 7:29:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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To: HitmanLV; Pokey78

She sure has the media on her side. No questions asked, no dirt, and no sling, just a smooth ride to the WH.


36 posted on 03/31/2007 7:31:58 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Very true. She is on Easy Street when it comes to the MSM.


37 posted on 03/31/2007 7:35:50 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: NYRepublican72
"You've got to be kidding me. Siding with Hiterly is 1000x worse than siding with Guliani on any issue. Ever."

I don't support Hillary of course... If you check the archives you'll find I was one of the first (if not THE first on FR) to suggest Thompson.

However, Hillary doesn't have any values... Just like her husband. If the polls said abortion was bad, she would be pro-life. If the polls said guns were good, she would be pro-gun. Hillary is a political animal... She just wants power. She would govern by the polls.

38 posted on 03/31/2007 7:46:58 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Pokey78; Bahbah; Txsleuth; Mo1

Bread and circuses, bread and circuses!!!


39 posted on 03/31/2007 8:42:34 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Oh..yes.

Most definitely she will do this..and have the MSM just hanging Rudy inch by inch, moment by moment...while Sandy Berger is walking around scot-free..just biding his time until he can get his security clearance back..


40 posted on 03/31/2007 8:47:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

What was Sandy doing in 84-90?

Wasn't he working for the Chinese as a liaison or something?

Wonder if any of the documents had anything to do with Loral...

The Dems know the best defense is a good offense. They could write off all of these hearings as campaign expenses. :-(


41 posted on 03/31/2007 8:52:19 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: Pokey78
This is just dispicable as hell.
42 posted on 03/31/2007 8:53:31 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Dang..I am not familiar enough with Sandy's history. I should find out.

I do know the Dems scare me....the lengths the will go to, to discredit Pres. Bush and his colleagues...and to gain power is frightening. NO rule, or law left unbroken...no life to sacred.

43 posted on 03/31/2007 8:55:59 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Pokey78; Victoria Delsoul; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Grampa Dave; gonzo
Let's see, the world's biggest demolition site and I saw countless professional first-responders spending days there with nothing more than a 3M nuisance mask.

And people got sick.

No mention that the event was the highjacking by nineteen jihadists which killed 3,000 all the result of the generalship of Osama bin Laden whom Bill and Mrs. Bill could not be bothered to ACCEPT from Sudan.

The Clintons' cowardice and betrayal in Mogadishu and failure to follow through on WTC I led to the inevitability of 911.

Okay, so to Mrs. White Trash it's nothing more than a bad air day.

To Rudy and we who care for the country it was an act of war and the presence of workers was the result of much personal heroism in the face of known risks.

This is a bomb which won't leave the she-devil's hand before it blows it off.

Reveal yourself, beast. There is no lower road.


44 posted on 03/31/2007 9:04:33 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Pokey78
Sally Regenhard, whose son was one of the 343 firefighters killed in the attacks, said last week she had no problem if Giuliani ran for president on his record of reducing New York crime, “but when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem”.

So was Bill Clinton and his co-Presidential wife, Beastzilla! Rudy needs to turn the tables on her.

45 posted on 04/01/2007 7:24:21 AM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: babygene

"Do you think that ANY OTHER MAYOR OF A LARGE CITY would have been any less outspoken had they been the target of 9-11?"

N.O. mayor Ray Nagin or S.F. mayor Gavin Newsom anyone?


46 posted on 04/01/2007 1:59:50 PM PDT by Gop1040
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To: Pokey78

Looks like they are wanting to turn 911 into 'Katrina' for Rudy, 6 years later. Bastards.


47 posted on 04/01/2007 2:02:46 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: PhilDragoo
Reveal yourself, beast. There is no lower road.

Man oh man, LOL!!

48 posted on 04/01/2007 3:11:27 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: Pokey78

She is tone deaf politically (compared to BC). She will overplay her hand this election.


49 posted on 04/01/2007 3:14:05 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: OldFriend

"We have crazed freepers praising hitlery, praising the NYSlimes as second only to the Holy Bible, and embracing every lunatic on the face of the earth who would blame Rudy rather than the terrorists for bringing down the WTC."

A bit overblown. Is it "crazed" to question the myth of Rudy the Hero?


50 posted on 04/01/2007 8:23:41 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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