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10th-grade WASL may ditch math and science
Seattle Times ^ | Monday, March 26, 2007 | Linda Shaw

Posted on 03/27/2007 6:19:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny

State lawmakers appear on the verge of dumping the math and science sections of the 10th-grade Washington Assessment of Student Learning (WASL), and replacing them with a very different kind of test.

The idea is to do something about the fact that so few students pass the math and science sections. But the proposed remedy is generating a lot of concern because it could mean big changes in what students are expected to learn, and how they're tested.

"We need to make sure that the cure is not worse than the ailment," said Marc Frazer, vice president of the Washington Roundtable, a nonprofit group of business executives.

(Excerpt) Read more at archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: education
The thing that's amazing about this article is not the plan to dumb-down a test that educators are not properly preparing students for - that's par for the course - the thing that's amazing is that from start to finish, no one says the education system needs more money.

I read through it thinking "What the hell?  Where's the money-grab?"

Obviously, someone at a teachers union is in trouble today.

1 posted on 03/27/2007 6:19:07 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Do they get to use calculators on their math assessment tests like they do here in Maryland?


2 posted on 03/27/2007 6:23:57 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"The idea is to do something about the fact that so few students pass the math and science sections"

Not by changing the education, mind you, but by dumping the test.

3 posted on 03/27/2007 6:26:17 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

By eliminating math and science from assessment testing, this means more time can be spent on feel-good, politically correct subjects that are the darling of the uber-leftist elites. Without strong math and science education, there is no future for this country. We will have to be managed by our educated overlords from China and India in the future.


4 posted on 03/27/2007 6:29:31 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Math curriculum needs to be changed. There is no new material introduced in 7th and 8th grades, and that is when students lag. Historically, primary school was just lengthened to keep kids out of the labor market without sound knowledge objectives.


5 posted on 03/27/2007 6:42:34 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
My plan for eliminating America's obesity problem: outlaw scales. Presto, no one is overweight.
6 posted on 03/27/2007 6:51:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: ClaireSolt
Math curriculum needs to be changed. There is no new material introduced in 7th and 8th grades, and that is when students lag.

I'm not aware of any changes in basic algebra. Change for the sake of change is pointless, especially when the subject matter hasn't and that subject matter is the foundation for future learning and for analytical thinking. Those concepts do not need to be changed. I think the fundamental problem is that math and science are not subjective. THey are rational and quantitative. Such subjects, IMHO, go against the current education trends like group learning or self esteem building. Moreover, these courses aren't easily made to fit the 'everybody is right' arguements that would apply in social science types of classes. Same reason why colleges and universities have super subjective, yet totally useless, liberal arts programs rife with socialist underpinnings, yet math, the hard sciences and engineering schools are brutally quantitative with no wiggle room for subjective opinion. The public schools need to make sure the students get a strong foundation in these areas, otherwise, Washington State is setting the groundword for a future Idiocracy.

7 posted on 03/27/2007 7:15:06 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

This is the next stage in public education. The purpose is no longer to educate children and teach them how to learn. The new purpose is to produce easily manageable adults.


8 posted on 03/27/2007 7:19:12 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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LOL

"replacing them with a very different kind of test."

Back in the distant past when I did QC work, we used to say - be careful of what you measure, that is what you will become.....


9 posted on 03/27/2007 9:08:10 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: kinoxi

Calculators? Oh, you mean fingers. Yep, they can use their fingers. And most can count up to seven.


10 posted on 03/28/2007 5:26:45 AM PDT by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
What does Bill "Americans can't do math or science so let's import the entire nation of India" Gates say about this, happening in his home state?
11 posted on 03/28/2007 5:31:55 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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See my vanity just written on the above.

Cheers!

12 posted on 03/28/2007 6:18:42 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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