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Poll: Thompson Pulls Giuliani Votes
Captain's quarters ^ | March 26, 2007 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/27/2007 3:51:49 AM PDT by Josh Painter

USA Today and Gallup offer their latest in polling for both parties in the extended presidential primary race, and a couple of changes have raised eyebrows. First, even the rumor of a bid by Fred Thompson has dented Rudy Giuliani's momentum, while John McCain's decline in support appears to have leveled off:

"On the Republican side, former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson shook up the field with his announcement that he would consider getting into the presidential race. Thompson is familiar as the actor who plays District Attorney Arthur Branch on NBC's Law and Order. Chosen by 12% of Republican and Republican-leaning voters, Thompson is third in the Republican field. He trails former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, at 31%, and Arizona Sen. John McCain, at 22%. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich is at 8%."

"Thompson's support seems to come largely from voters who had supported Giuliani. In the USA TODAY poll taken March 2-4, Giuliani's standing had been 13 percentage points higher, at 44%. McCain's support had been 2 points lower then."

"What does this mean? Conservatives who have supported Giuliani for his leadership and electability -- and plenty of them have -- would desert Rudy if a credible, consistent conservative entered the race... Thompson['s]... eight years in the Senate have left a more credible sense of consistency and center-right politics than Giuliani brings to the race. And according to the Post's blog The Sleuth, Thompson has begun seriously considering a run -- and has met with GOP powerhouse advisor Ed Gillespie."

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Romney fared poorly in this poll... That has to be disappointing, especially since Hugh Hewitt's political biography and Romney's appearance at CPAC should have set the stage for a significant boost. Has Thompson's potential disrupted Romney's momentum as well? Possibly.

(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; fredthompson; nomination; republican; thompson
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Money quote: "Thompson's support seems to come largely from voters who had supported Giuliani."
1 posted on 03/27/2007 3:51:52 AM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: Sturm Ruger

Giuliani was getting a boost from folks who are conservative, but are willing to bite the bullet, b/c they believe that he will rain hell onto Islamofascists and that he can win the general.

With Thompson, they get someone just as tough, and who can have just as good a shot at winning. Difference is that he is also a conservative.

So this data makes sense to me.


2 posted on 03/27/2007 3:55:03 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Sturm Ruger
"Money quote: "Thompson's support seems to come largely from voters who had supported Giuliani."

Those poor Rudybots. They're getting awfully testy lately aren't they? ;^)
3 posted on 03/27/2007 3:55:23 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Sturm Ruger
Giuliani still leads Thompson 27-9 in the latest poll or 3 times as many people support Rudy as they do Thompson. Hardly the earth shattering support so many here said would develop. And before someone says "well he ain't even in the race yet", Gingrich isn't and usually manages in the mid teens.
4 posted on 03/27/2007 3:56:46 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Fred Thompson being an actor and all, comparisons to the original conservative actor president (Ron Reagan) will be but natural. Besides, the war against izlamofascism is just as critical and dangerous as the one against communism.


5 posted on 03/27/2007 3:59:31 AM PDT by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: Sturm Ruger

There are tons of us that NEVER supported Rudy, that might just vote for Fred!

I notice that the Rudybots are really quiet!


6 posted on 03/27/2007 4:01:18 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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To: spikeytx86
Giuliani still leads Thompson 27-9 in the latest poll or 3 times as many people support Rudy as they do Thompson. Hardly the earth shattering support so many here said would develop. And before someone says "well he ain't even in the race yet", Gingrich isn't and usually manages in the mid teens.

Oh how we love the smell of panic in the morning...

7 posted on 03/27/2007 4:02:33 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: ConservativeDude
With Thompson, they get someone just as tough, and who can have just as good a shot at winning.

Just as tough? All I remember of Fred, unfortunately, is seeing him get rolled by John Glenn on the Senate Committee investigating illegal campaign contributions during the 1996 election season. Tough? Senators by their very nature aren't "tough". And that's why only one in our lifetime has been elected President.

8 posted on 03/27/2007 4:04:26 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: mariabush
I notice that the Rudybots are really quiet!

Give them time, the thread is still young.

9 posted on 03/27/2007 4:04:56 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: Sturm Ruger

and that's his job.....what fools the GOP is


10 posted on 03/27/2007 4:06:29 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: ConservativeDude

Thompson is a plant to hurt the GOP against the beats.....what fools.....


11 posted on 03/27/2007 4:07:20 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Good for you....I knew there were some brains here


12 posted on 03/27/2007 4:08:28 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Good, because the scumbag giuliani doesn't even deserve to be in the race.


13 posted on 03/27/2007 4:09:20 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: spikeytx86

Oh, it will develop. Gingrich has been "not running yet" for months now. Fred Thompson's appearance on Fox News Sunday was just two weeks ago. The Fred Thompson grassroots movement is still in its infancy!


14 posted on 03/27/2007 4:11:09 AM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: Always Right

Ohhhh I'm a shakin LOL. No matter what happens, as long as chuck hagle ain't the nominee, I would be happy with the outcome of the primaries. My preferred candidate is still beating the pants off of all comers, but if that were to change the worst thing that would happen is another republican would get the nomination, oh lordy the horror! Your the ones whom if your candidate doesn't win the primaries who will go apoplectic.


15 posted on 03/27/2007 4:11:10 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: mariabush; Antoninus; Liz; flashbunny; TommyDale; Enosh

Many of the rudybots are hiding in their new anti-freeper cave of a website.


16 posted on 03/27/2007 4:11:44 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: Sturm Ruger
Poll: Thompson Pulls Giuliani Votes

EXCELLENT!!!!! I hope he pulls them all

17 posted on 03/27/2007 4:11:57 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: ConservativeDude
I really like Fred Thompson, and he may get my vote, if he declares. Right now I am a RudyBot, without apologies. One thing I have noticed on the last few Fred Thompson threads, that I really have not liked, is the abundance of Thompson supporters that spend every post stating that "Rudy backers won't like this", with a very snide attitude.

In my case, I am looking for a leader, and leaders are usually defined by how there followers act. Why can't we all agree to look at all candidates, point out the areas where we agree, or disagree with them, and move on. I know many will claim that it is the Rudy supporters do the same thing, yet what I see is Rudy supporters defending their guy, while I see Thompson and Hunter supporters spending more time putting down Rudy instead of encouraging them to look at Fred.

Conservative Dude, I posted to your post because you did make a reasoned point, without the Rudy flames, and for that I am grateful. Keep up the reasoned debate.

18 posted on 03/27/2007 4:12:28 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: Sturm Ruger
And if it develops and overtakes Giuliani then great, he wins the primary and then finally we can stop devouring each other and actually you know, attack Democrats. But I don't see it overtaking him, unless McCain and/or Romney drops out, then it would be anyones game.
19 posted on 03/27/2007 4:14:12 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Sturm Ruger
Seems to me that there are a lot of GOP voters who are just looking for a 'star', and that's why they gravitated towards Giuliani in the first place. Fred is a bigger star, so they're willing to hitch their wagons to him.

He seems to be the perfect candidate. He pleases the country club Republicans, who simply want lower taxes, he pleases the social conservatives, who trust him to support their pet issues, and he pleases the "just don't let any Democrat win in 2008" voters who wouldn't back an unknown like Hunter or Brownback in the primaries.

Did I leave any category out?

20 posted on 03/27/2007 4:14:13 AM PDT by hunter112
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