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More Murtha Than Thou [Duncan Hunter's Iraq withdrawal plan]
Opinion Journal (WSJ) political diary ^ | 3/20/07 | Brendan Miniter

Posted on 03/20/2007 2:25:05 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

Last week, with no fanfare, Mr. Hunter unveiled his own plan that his office says will "set the stage for withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq." In a letter to President Bush, Mr. Hunter calls for rotating Iraqi troops into combat assignments and, once they prove adept at the new role, American forces can leave the country. Mr. Hunter offered his plan after returning from a fact-finding mission to Baghdad, Ramadi and Fallujah. He doesn't give a specific date for withdrawal, but his plan is certainly a sign of waning support among Republicans for the war.

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As his Iraq plan shows, symbolic attempts at micromanagement are becoming the mandatory way even for ambitious GOPers to distance themselves from the war without seeming to be in favor of defeat.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duncanyoyo; hunter; potusfredthompson; unfitforpotus
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1 posted on 03/20/2007 2:25:06 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

Brendan Minater, you are full of sh*t. HAs Hunter ever even HINTED that we would withdraw before the Iraq Army can assume full responsibliites? NO. He stresses VICTORY. Pure and simple.

It's a PLAN FOR HOW TO GET THEM ALL TRAINED PROPERLY. You must be a blithering Rudy/MCCain rump boy if you think this stupidly.


2 posted on 03/20/2007 2:28:26 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: M. Thatcher

Total BS. This is a liberal hit-piece against Hunter. Hunter supports Bush fully on Iraq and supports the surge specifically. The main difference is that he wants every Iraqi unit to take part for a time to gain expirience.

To paint him as a cut'n'runner and even comparing him with Murtha is only an attempt to make him politcally cold at the very beginning.


3 posted on 03/20/2007 2:28:45 PM PDT by SolidWood (Attack Iran NOW!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; Antoninus; WalterSkinner

Ping


4 posted on 03/20/2007 2:29:33 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

I believe rotating troops out as the Iraqis take over is pretty much the same as the president's plan. After all there are only two other options. Retreat immediately or keep sending troops indefinitely.


5 posted on 03/20/2007 2:31:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: M. Thatcher

Bush has said over and over, "when the Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down." This is just Hunter's take on the same objective.


6 posted on 03/20/2007 2:31:52 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: M. Thatcher
Gee, that's very similar to MY plan.

My plan...

...calls for rotating Iraqi troops into combat assignments and, once they prove adept at the new role, American forces can encircle the Country and kill anything that moves!!!

:O)

P




7 posted on 03/20/2007 2:34:06 PM PDT by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: M. Thatcher
There are not many people who support keeping the US military camped in Iraq forever. It doesn't really make sense.

There are a lot more people who support temporarily relocating the US military a few hundred miles eastward.

8 posted on 03/20/2007 2:34:49 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: pissant
Brenda looks like a San Francisco fudge packer!

Richard's lost little brother.

9 posted on 03/20/2007 2:35:56 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: M. Thatcher
Hunter's suggestion has generally been the administration's stated plan for Iraq with an indefinite, flexible timeline. Trainers and advisers would remain longer.
10 posted on 03/20/2007 2:36:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: M. Thatcher; All

From NPR:

Congressman Hunter, you today said that Congressman Murtha was just plain wrong. What is wrong with the idea that the military has done as much as it can, and it's just time to leave?

REP. DUNCAN HUNTER: Well, Margaret, moving -- leaving in a precipitous manner -- that is, before we fully train up the Iraqi military and give them the ability to sustain their own security -- is a recipe for disaster.

And we saw that when we tried to move green Iraqi troops into the battle in Fallujah before they were trained and we noticed they didn't show up for formation the next day.

So we've walked through this series of milestones for the elections and the approval of the constitution and we're moving toward a permanent government. And we are standing up the Iraqi military. We are training them, and they're taking on larger responsibilities every day.

They're taking over areas like Najaf and Sadr City that heretofore were guarded only by Americans, and the decision to leave should be based solely on the judgment of the combatant commanders on the ground who say, "My Iraqi counterparts can now handle this particular area of the country on their own with minimum American support or with no American support." When they can do that, we should leave.


11 posted on 03/20/2007 2:38:24 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant
It's a PLAN FOR HOW TO GET THEM ALL TRAINED PROPERLY.

I heard him talk about this plan and this is exactly what it is. He wants to find a way to get units battle-hardened, that's all. I thought it sounded pretty sensible.

12 posted on 03/20/2007 2:39:35 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: SolidWood

Once again (though this should come as absolutely no surprise to those of us who have had enough of WSJ "Opinions") WSJ's total endorsement of "Open Borders to one and all" is very much against Duncan Hunter and anywhere, and everywhere they can find a reason to smear him in the hearts and minds of the "real conservatives" Rush was speaking of earlier today, they will.


13 posted on 03/20/2007 2:44:39 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: M. Thatcher
..Duncan Hunter's sentiments on Iraq

Hardball Interview
MSNBC Interview

14 posted on 03/20/2007 2:45:24 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: M. Thatcher
Selective quoting to deceive the masses.
15 posted on 03/20/2007 2:45:40 PM PDT by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Bahbah
It's a PLAN FOR HOW TO GET THEM ALL TRAINED PROPERLY.

Worth repeating! I also heard him and that is exactly what it is.

16 posted on 03/20/2007 2:45:50 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: M. Thatcher
Brendan, I bet you see things that nooobody else sees. I won't say you are crazy, but, go see a licensed professional before you try to fly like a bird. What a nonsensical article.
17 posted on 03/20/2007 2:49:53 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: zerosix

Hunter is probably the single most supportive congressman in Washington when it comes to our troops. He even wants to go a step further and support American troops with American industry that won't embargo needed equipment on a whim.


18 posted on 03/20/2007 2:51:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: M. Thatcher

You KNEW you were gonna get this reaction, dintchya? LOL


19 posted on 03/20/2007 2:55:49 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Liberal spin in action people.

Of course we're not going to remain in Iraq indefinitely. That hasn't been Bush's plan; the plan has always been to withdraw once the Iraqi military is fully capable of defending its own country from invaders.

Hunter is just giving some finality to the president's plan, so that the Iraqis will have stood up their whole military within the near future.

In other words, this is a hit piece.

20 posted on 03/20/2007 3:07:45 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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