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(ROANOKE, VA) PAPER RECEIVES FLAK FOR LIST: Threats of violence, litigation and legislation ....
The Roanoke Times ^ | March 14, 2007 | Laurence Hammack

Posted on 03/14/2007 5:31:51 AM PDT by Perseverando

Threats of violence, litigation and legislation sprang up after a list of people allowed to carry concealed weapons was released.

The Roanoke Times will not re-post a list of gun owners on its Web site, even after being told amid continuing public furor that releasing the information does not violate state law.

First published Sunday, the database of more than 135,000 people allowed to carry concealed handguns has become the most controversial content in roanoke.com's history -- sparking threats of violence, litigation and legislation.

One day later, the list was removed from the site because of concerns that state police might have inappropriately included the names of crime victims on a list it provided to the newspaper.

Although there is a law that protects the identity of some victims in certain circumstances, state police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said Tuesday the restriction does not apply to the concealed-weapons list.

"The information released to The Roanoke Times was in total compliance with the Freedom of Information Act," Geller said. "It is up to the recipient of that information to be a responsible guardian of the information."

While Geller declined to comment on whether the newspaper acted responsibly, hundreds of angry readers have said in e-mails, phone calls and even threats that it did not.

By naming everyone in Virginia who has received court permission to carry a concealed weapon, critics said, the newspaper invaded the privacy of law-abiding citizens and all but invited criminals to burglarize homes for guns. Another concern is that victims of domestic abuse, who might have armed themselves for protection, are now in danger of being tracked down by their abusers via the database.

Although the legal concerns stated by the newspaper as the reason for removing the names no longer seem to apply,

(Excerpt) Read more at roanoke.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gun; roanoke; roanoketimes
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1 posted on 03/14/2007 5:31:56 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
This is a prime example of my personal old saying: Just because I can do it doesn't mean that I should do it.
It is wrong to publish people's name, address, phone number, etc. It's wrong. I hope that someone does successfully sue them.
2 posted on 03/14/2007 5:41:06 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: Perseverando

What public good did these bozos think they were accomplishing by publishing the database?

Why not state welfare recipients? Or DUI infractions? Drug dealers?

Instead they choose law-abiding citizens?


3 posted on 03/14/2007 5:41:18 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Perseverando

Translation: It's not our fault.

What a worthless article.


4 posted on 03/14/2007 5:42:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Perseverando
They THOUGHT they were outing only dumb red necks who like to carry guns around.

Trouble is, like most moonbats, they didn't think their actions through at all. In a giddy, "feels good" to slam "evil guns and their bad owners" rush to judgment, their own "judgment" flew out the window.

When their phone lines started melting, reality kicked them right in their crotch and woke them out of their idiocy.

I hope they go out of business.
5 posted on 03/14/2007 5:50:08 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Al Gator
I hope they go out of business.

Apparently, they do too.

6 posted on 03/14/2007 5:52:20 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

I remember reading that story yesterday. The little prick that wrote it seemed arrogantly proud of himself ,like a kid who had just gotten away with stealing a piece of candy.

Christian Trejbal the jackass who proudly amd arrogantly bragged in his column about how smart he was to get this information,is now receiving a lot of attention such as "gifts"at his ront door that he is afraid to open.

The article was here in Free Republic and some of our more curious posters evidently found his home,and gave his address. The thread was pulled by the moderators. It seems that although Mr. Trejbal doesnt mind putting other people's names and addresses in the street and mouthing off about how thir neighbors should harrass them , he isnt into his own name and address being out there.

Dont start no crap there wont be no crap Mr. Trajbal you ignorant louse.


7 posted on 03/14/2007 5:57:11 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: angkor
What public good did these bozos think they were accomplishing by publishing the database?

Here's part of their explanation for publishing the database from the original RT article:

"Au contraire. Because the government handles the permitting, it is everyone's business.
There are good reasons the records are open to public scrutiny. People might like to know if their neighbors carry. Parents might like to know if a member of the car pool has a pistol in the glove box. Employers might like to know if employees are bringing weapons to the office."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1799703/posts

8 posted on 03/14/2007 5:59:39 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: AppyPappy
It is because of events like this that many folks I know do not obey the law. They simply own their firearms without anyone else knowing about it.

I, on the other hand, don't have the guts to do that. I am terribly uptight about obeying all laws.

There sure have been times when I have wished that I had a few more "secrets", though--and this paper printing this information is certainly one of those times.

9 posted on 03/14/2007 6:03:29 AM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: Perseverando

The liberal carpetbaggers will get theirs:


Tom,

We're all over it. Must stop...Hope to see you at the George Allen event for me at Old Hickory 27 March...

Best,

Scott


To: [del_Lingamfelter@house.state.va.us]
From: [Pentagon Leatherneck]
Date: 03/14/2007 07:43AM


Scott,
I imagine you're aware of the rising furor over the Roanoke Times decision to publish a searchable database of all Virginia's CHP holders, along with the home address of each of us. The writer is now getting Zumboed, but good. Read all about it here: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=261555

I hope you're intending to remedy this situation legislatively ( and that's from a guy who thinks most problems stem from too many laws, not too few). If not, then I would request that you do so. I believe that personal info of CHP holders should be for official use only. No good can possibly come from the misuse and publication of this information by these carpetbagging morons in Roanoke.

My best to you and your family, as always.
Very respectfully
Tom


10 posted on 03/14/2007 6:07:32 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Perseverando

I hope the concealed weapon permit owners sue and win. I am appalled. Every criminal in the Roanoke area now knows who has a gun legally on them, while every criminal who is carrying a gun remains a mystery. What a dopey thing for the Roanoke Paper to do.


11 posted on 03/14/2007 6:14:10 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Just between "you, me and this fence post" I think the people not listed should worry.

Carriers make the rest safe.


12 posted on 03/14/2007 6:28:06 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Perseverando
"The list was put up as an example of a public record," (Roanoke Times president and publisher) Meade said. "It was never intended for that information to be housed indefinitely on our site."

Isn't is amazing out members of the MSM, like Dan Rather, can lie so easily and with a perfectly straight face.

13 posted on 03/14/2007 6:32:37 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: sgtbono2002
"Dont start no crap there wont be no crap Mr. Trajbal you ignorant louse."

But..but..my freedom of speech! I thought I could say anything I wanted to without any repercussions - just like the Ditzy Chiks!
14 posted on 03/14/2007 6:36:26 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: AmericanMade1776
"I hope the concealed weapon permit owners sue and win."

Perhaps a Virginia Freeper with a carry license could file a class action lawsuit on behalf of EVERYONE whose names were published? Could be verrrry interesting.
15 posted on 03/14/2007 6:38:44 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: Perseverando

"Employers might like to know if employees are bringing weapons to the office."

Hmmm.... perhaps. But....

I'd been offered a position with a company that spends a great deal on employee background checks, they take them quite seriously.

Imagine my surprise when the hiring manager called just before the start date to raise "a very important question." And the question was, "Was there a precipitating event that caused you to apply for a concealed weapons permit?" Right out of the blue.

I explained that there was no such "event" and that I'd applied more-or-less on a whim, because it was legal to do so. Also that I used it (e.g., carried) rarely, and never, ever to the office. No need to be concerned about that.

Fortunately this guy was openminded and had friends at one of the high-end security firms, so it wasn't a further problem. But imagine if your CW status was known to everyone at the workplace.


16 posted on 03/14/2007 6:40:50 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Perseverando

Has anyone ever considered getting names, addresses, phone numbers, vehicle descriptions etc of about the top 50 people at the newspaper and handing them out amongst the homeless?


17 posted on 03/14/2007 6:48:32 AM PDT by Clay Moore ("My daddy says I'm this close to living in the yard." Ralph Wiggum)
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To: sgtbono2002

"Christian Trejbal the jackass who proudly amd arrogantly bragged in his column about how smart he was to get this information,is now receiving a lot of attention such as "gifts"at his ront door that he is afraid to open."

So tell us, do you think it's OK to leave a package that was apparently meant to scare him, thereby necessitating closing down the street, tying up law enforcement time and forcing some of his neighbors to evacuate? Is it OK to send enough personal threats that the newspaper hired a private guard?


18 posted on 03/14/2007 6:54:05 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: sgtbono2002

"I remember reading that story yesterday. The little prick that wrote it seemed arrogantly proud of himself ,like a kid who had just gotten away with stealing a piece of candy
."

Yeah. Typical attitude of a self-righteous lefty looking down on those who choose to take responsibility for their own safety. But I'll bet the little weenie fully supports the homosexual agenda, abortion on demand, carbon taxes, and eats tofu every day.


19 posted on 03/14/2007 6:57:16 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Clay Moore

"Has anyone ever considered getting names, addresses, phone numbers, vehicle descriptions etc of about the top 50 people at the newspaper and handing them out amongst the homeless?"

Not really. I've got better things to do with my time.


20 posted on 03/14/2007 6:57:57 AM PDT by gracesdad
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