Giuliani Speaks at CPAC (CSPAN) LIVE

CSPAN ^ | 3/1/07

[areafiftyone]

All day today we are covering speakers and panels at the 34th Annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, DC. This morning, we'll hear from Republican presidential hopeful former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. He will be followed by Reps. Scott Garrett (NJ), Tom Tancredo (CO), and others.

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[pleikumud]

Giuliani gave an excellent speech - makes me more inclined to support him.

[Delphinium]

Heck, throw out half as Dems, how do we convince 37,500,000.

Gun issues are extremely important in these western states. Many of these gun issue voters don't even belong to GOA, or NRA but they pay attention and will vote accordingly. Atleast those primary voters.

and if Rudy happens to win the primary? How to enegise them to vote? In the general we need every vote we can get.

I realize many supporting Rudy are excited about replacing "family values voters" with pro-homosexual, pro-choice voters, but would that really be a reality?

[M. Thatcher]

I think the owners, and a lot of the conservatives, think that there is a lot of distraction here lately and a little purging of the riff-raff might make this a more focused and useful forum.

You're itching for a good purge, eh, Josef?

[M. Thatcher]

I am not about to forget about it. Ever.

Ditto.

Or forgive it. Ever.

[deport]

Times change, evolve and come or go... We also fit into that scheme. My guess is that there will changes occuring to this forum whether good or bad as a result of this election. The same occurred back in 99-00 when the then Gov. of Texas was seeking the nomination and later on as the candidate. He was routinely blasted and called names like :

Cokehead

Stupid

Dumb

Draft Dodger

Pawn of the CFR, NWO, or some other nefarious group

Drunk

etc, etc, etc

Good luck in your endeavors, keep up the good fight because this election may allow the democrats to control the congress and the white house simultaneously. That I have to believe will be much worse than the election of any one of the candidates attempting to secure the GOP nomination.

Take care.

[onyx]

Good point. I won't. Ever.

[SJackson]

NRA and GOA are about 4,030,000 of 80,000,000 gunowners. In my view, the question isn't about Rudy in the general. 4 million care enough to fork over a few bucks. It's how to get some of the other 75 million plus to pay attention to the primary. And my suggestion was that it isn't over the top stuff.

If rudy wins, 75 million don't care, most of the 4 million have enough sense to realize that Hillary or Obama are worse, so it's no longer an issue.

Extend that to other issues. This is a primary battle.

And I neither think it's a matter of replacing "family values voters" with pro-homosexual, pro-choice voters

Like it or not for many voters the WOT is more important than abortion or gun rights or gay marriage. That's simply a fact.

I think you may have been on a discussion of Rudy's WOT qualifications, which are equalled if not exceeded by Gingrich-Hunter-McCain. But it attracts little attention. Rudy's perceived weakness' are so much fun, no one addresses his perceived strength.

I'm not a McCain person, but Gingrich and Hunter both have better WOT and defence qualifications. That should make Rudy's defects on social issues an afterthought.

[Gabz]

I've already stated that FR will probably become even more conservative than it already is, through attrition if nothing else. Besides continuing to champion the defense of America, FR just might become the "Conservative Conscience of the Republican Party," ie, we may become a real thorn in the side of moderate/liberal Republicanism. Someone has to try defend the party from completely tossing out traditional American conservatism. Might as well be us.

I guess so. I'm sorry, Jim, I have a great deal of respect for you and always have and always will, but even my husband, who never posted much but was a regular reader/lurker won't even bother looking at this forum any more.......and he makes me look like Hillary Clinton as far as being a conservative. As far as he is concerned the religious rightwing whackos have taken over and are seeking to turn this country into a theocracy.

I don't totally agree with him, but I do understand his point, as there is far too much religious zealotry and bigotry than even I am comfortable with anymore.

[RobFromGa]

Excellent post. About sums up my position on Rudy.

2008 is about three things-- the War on Terror, maintaining a pro-growth economic system, and nominating Constitutionalists to the Supreme Court. The Dem nominee will not do any of these things. Rudy will do all three.

[commonguymd]

I always wondered when this site started. I thought 97, but you say you lurked here in 1996... Jim has been a member since 97...

[I_like_good_things_too]

Nittany, that is my whole POINT! Calling him a liberal is absurd. Calling him a moderate, or even calling him a liberal republican or a fiscal conservative... that would be reasonable.

[I_like_good_things_too]

WHOA-- now that might shake things up a bit!

[commonguymd]

interesting.

[Gabz]

Seriously, are you joking?

I don't joke when I'm talking politics. It was how I earned a living for many years, until I retired from it, I don't find it a joking matter.

[Hildy]

There isn't a dime's worth of political difference, other than a political label, between Rooty and Ted Kennedy.

Before this astonishing statement, your extreme behavior could be explained by the fact you're a one issue zealot. Now, I have to put mental illness into the mix.

[M. Thatcher]

Just freepmail your apology. Oh, but only after you wash your hands, please.

You are trying to communicate by innuendo the smear against Howlin that was said openly on the forum and was rightfully deleted.

You are vile.

[Corin Stormhands]

Oh, I tried being civil.

Could you show me where? I must have been out that day.

[onyx]

I am going to ignore the nanny --- he knows he's a butt boy and tattler --- I recall he was first to jump on the Bush is a cokehead threads too. NOT a serious poster --- just a kissy poo poof.

[WestVirginiaRebel]

This is the problem with the conservative movement in a nutshell. The fundamentalist fringe DOES NOT represent traditional conservatism. I hope Jim Robinson realizes that and helps FR become the forefront of a real "Back to basics" movement, not one that worships the ground Bush walks on or focuses on wedge issues that are political dead ends.

[deport]

I am going to ignore the nanny

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That works wonders as it's hard to have a one way argument. Not every response requires an answer or acknowledgement.