[jrooney]

Ron Paul is a cut and run coward. He turned his back on the troops. When the going got tough, Ron left the troops without his support. Shameful. Ron Paul voted against the Iraq War Resolution authorizing force be used against Saddam. If Ronny the coward had his way, Saddam would stil be in power today to murder and rape the innocent. That is Ron Paul.

[Rodney King]

If Ronny the coward

Let me just try to get your line of thinking down: Anyone who doesn't think that US should run around being the worlds policeman is a coward? Does that mean we are coward if after Iraq we don't attack North Korea, Cuba, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria?

[Wormwood]

If Ron Paul voted *against* the use of force resolution, then how can he be a "cut and run coward"?

Paul's position was that we not invade in the first place.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Ron Paul called for a Constitutional Congressional Declaration of War before sending Troops into Iraq.

Paul Calls for Congressional Declaration of War with Iraq

That was the Constitutional way to do it.

As a result of Congress' abdication of its responsibility to Constitutionally Declare War in Iraq, our Troops who are kidnapped by the Enemy there are denied "Prisoner of War" status.

Sadly, another member of the American Military is now ambiguously classified as "Missing-Captured" when his true status is Prisoner of War. Why is the United States Government so unwilling to refer to these servicemen as Prisoner of War? From our observation, the answer is simple. The ambiguous designation "Missing-Captured" allows a public with a notoriously short attention span to forget that these men were taken alive and held by the enemy. The "Missing-Captured" designation is a question mark in the minds of a generally unaware public. There is no question mark attached to the designation Prisoner of War. It is a clear description of status.... Unfortunately, the United States Government has never had any difficulty leaving any man behind. The elimination of the POW designation makes it that much easier. The perception foisted on an unsuspecting public that there are no POWs in Iraq is simply wrong. -- POW/MIA InterNetwork, January 27, 2007 (http://www.aiipowmia.com/inter27/in270107bitsnaf.html)

Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican Candidate standing up for our missing Prisoners of War! "Ron Paul is one of only two co-sponsors of H. Res. 123, for the establishment of a Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to 'conduct a full investigation of all unresolved matters relating to any United States personnel unaccounted for from the Vietnam era, the Korean conflict, World War II, Cold War Missions, or Gulf War, including MIA's and POW's.' (POW-MIA InterNetwork)"

Bring 'em home alive, Ron! POW*MIA -- You Are Not Forgotten

[Irontank]

If Ronny the coward had his way, Saddam would still be in power today to murder and rape the innocent

But Ron Paul's been consistent on Iraq...he voted against the initial authorization, condemned his fellow Conressmen for refusing to take a stand on declaring war as it is required to do under the Constitution

Two weeks ago, during a hearing in the House International Relations committee, I attempted to force the committee to follow the Constitution and vote to declare war with Iraq. The language of Article I, section 8, is quite clear: only Congress has the authority to declare war. Yet Congress in general, and the committee in particular, have done everything possible to avoid making such a declaration. Why? Because members lack the political courage to call an invasion of Iraq what it really is- a war- and vote yes or no on the wisdom of such a war. Congress would rather give up its most important authorized power to the President and the UN than risk losing an election later if the war goes badly. There is always congressional "support" for a popular war, but the politicians want room to maneuver if the public later changes its mind. So members take half steps, supporting confusingly worded "authorizations" that they can back away from easily if necessary.

When Congress issued clear declarations of war against Japan and Germany during World War II, the nation was committed and victory was achieved. When Congress shirks its duty and avoids declaring war, as with Korea, and Vietnam, the nation is less committed and victory is elusive. No lives should be lost in Iraq unless Congress expresses the clear will of the American people and votes yes or no on a declaration of war.
--Ron Paul, October 14, 2002

As far as rescuing Iraqis who were murdered by Saddam...I frankly care more about the thousands of young Americans who've been wounded or killed while standing in the middle of the barbarian battles between Shiites and Sunnis...and, in the end, we got rid of Saddam, who was a mortal enemy of Iran and now have a pro-Iranian government in Iraq...we've spent so much to accomplish so little...as government always seems to do

We Americans must avoid fantastic schemes to rescue those for whom we bear no responsibility, and we must resist imagining a moral splendor for murderers who better understand media manipulation than the murderers with whom they are in conflict. We must learn not to trust our eyes and ears--and, especially, their electronic extensions: the media, forever focusing on the crisis of the moment, almost never understand what they witness. In dealing with nationalism and fundamentalism, we must be willing to let the flames burn themselves out whenever we are not in danger of catching fire ourselves. If we want to avoid needless, thankless deaths among our own countrymen, we must try to learn to watch others die with equanimity.
--Col. Ralph Peters

[CharlesWayneCT]

Ron Paul did not "turn his back on the troops". He was consistantly against the war.

Ron is too isolationist to be President, but it is false to accuse him of turning his back on our troops.

[jmc813]

Ron Paul is a cut and run coward. He turned his back on the troops. When the going got tough, Ron left the troops without his support. Shameful. Ron Paul voted against the Iraq War Resolution authorizing force be used against Saddam. If Ronny the coward had his way, Saddam would stil be in power today to murder and rape the innocent.

This is a thread about Paul's exemplqary record on taxes. Would you care to add your thoughts on that?

[George W. Bush]

If Ronny the coward had his way, Saddam would stil be in power today to murder and rape the innocent. That is Ron Paul.

That is also Bush Senior, James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Lawrence Eagleburger and Colin Powell, just to name the ones that are clearly in opposition and have been all along. They don't oppose publicly but they have made it clear that they did not agree when consulted and they are increasingly less silent about the mistakes that were made. Not being disloyal to Bush but they do have their own beliefs based on long experience. Against those people and their foreign policy acumen, especially in the Mideast, stack up the wimpy neo-cons, Bush, Cheney, and Condi.

I think I'll take the old heads of GOP foreign policy, you know, the ones who actually have had real successes in foreign policy and coalition building.

Moreover, the real problem with Iraq is not that we couldn't beat an Arab army. After all, only the French have ever lost to one (and even them only once). The problem is that it was never a war as much as deposing a dictator and engaging in nation-building in the rockiest soil imaginable, purchased with the cost of American soldiers' blood.

I think the verdict is likely to be that it was not worth and could never be worth it. They're Muslims. The first thing they'll do with a democracy is to destroy it and revert to their totalitarian ways, continuing under the spell of their evil and degrading barracks religion.

[cva66snipe]

Ron Paul is a cut and run coward. He turned his back on the troops.

Wrong! The man called for a Declaration of War. Who else in the GOP did that? The Lamestream GOP and the DEMs are the COWARDS for not giving our troops 100% full support they deserve and they still won't. Support means more than cheering them on. What about more active duty troops and equipment? Where are they?

The congress can vote on whether monkeys fly or not but they have yet to vote to give our troops more needed help beyond token feel good measures to ease their conscience. Where has Bush been on this as well? Telling Rummy to make stupid you don't go to war with what you wish you had... for several years when they still done NOTHING for the troops but make token trips to Iraq and pat themselves on the back for it!!!! IOW Photo OPPs DEMs and GOP alike.

Please do not tell me congress has declared war as they did not. That resolution was as useless and Unconstitutional as the Gulf of Tokin Resolution pushed by LBJ. It was resolutions of enforcing UN policy spewage. Learn something GOP stop being the other stupid party. Learn from past mistakes and don't repeat them.

Two Republicans the two most conservative congressmen in DC Ron Paul and Jimmy Duncan voted against that initial and the recent resolution. The GOP needs a good trip to the woodshed to be reminded what conservative principle are and using troops for nation building is not one of them. Nation building is not the job of a member of the United States Armed Forces. I know the DEMs are too stupid as a party to understand that but the GOP knows better or said it did in 2000 isn't that rght GW Bush?. Bush did exactly what he accused Clinton/Gore of doing.

If you think the voters in their districts are going to vote these two out Wrong again as their districts are a traditional conservative.

Both Paul and Duncan have been re-elected to office since the initial Resolution for authorization of force. Duncans district has an Air National Guard Base, Several Army NG units who have deployed and returned, and Army, Navy, and Marine, reserve centers. He looks out after his men as he was also Army National Guard for 18 years. I'll take him over my Bush Rubber Stamp Congressman Wamp anyday. I won't leadership that actually thinks for thamself and has the courage to stand up and say what needs saying even if I do not agree 100%.