Posted on 02/16/2007 6:43:00 AM PST by NYer
Yep...bad consequences generally happen because of poor decisions. In the situation we're talking about, of course, the pro-aborts would use the "quality of life" argument to justify getting rid of the unborn child. I would never sanction as much, because, placing an ultimate value on life, I would argue that life under pretty much any circumstance is better than the alternative....but much like an abortion, an IV pregnancy procured by a single, unattached female is merely a matter of convenience and selfishness which victimizes the child.
How so?
You are implying that a single person should not have a child. I am not saying you are right or wrong.
There are those on FR who feel America is lost since the Muslim birthrate is higher than that of the US. They also believe if a couple does not have more than 2 children, they are dooming America.
Too lazy to do a link to the FR posts. If I get time tonight, I'll link it.
I'm implying no such thing. If you look at other things I've typed here, I fully recognize that there are situations where that's an unavoidable circumstance, and I don't begrudge a single parent who has left an abusive relationship, has been outright abandoned, or has suffered the death of their spouse...
...I also recognize that those parents are raising their children under far more difficult circumstances than in a two parent household, and the child only has the benefit of 50% of the parental influence, guidance, mentorship and love that the child in a traditional family would have. That there are single parent families due to various circumstances is a fact of life, and "opposing" single parenthood would be as useful as opposing the sun rising in the east. On the other hand, deliberately and knowingly creating those circumstances and placing a child in that situation is an act of selfishness and a very poor moral choice which effects more than just the parent and child.
I have more... but I like my posting privileges around here.
I think he fibbed a bit on the resume ...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007070791,00.html
The ends don't justify the means.
I never said that and I never thought it. But the people creating these situations are not taking anything into account except their own selfish needs.
Exactly.
What would be the alternative? Having a mother and father known to the children?
Amen!
The alternative would be not being born and never to have existed.
Given the choice I know which one I would have preferred.
I was recalling the scene where Barney is coming out of the sperm bank, belching. And several women are seen carrying little belching babies. Then, the camera pulls back, and we hear little belches echoing all over Springfield.
So instead of a child being born with a Mother and a Father a child was born with only one parent. I don't see your point because abortion was never discussed in this matter and was never an alternative in this situation.
Given the choice I would rather be born having a Mother and Father.
That already happened for one child.
The woman choose that the child that would have had a mother and father known to her was not be born.
Rather, the woman choose that the child that would only have one parent, would be born.
"So instead of a child being born with a Mother and a Father a child was born with only one parent."
You do realize there are married couples who use donated sperm because the man is in capable of impregnating the woman? I know such a couple and they have two wonderful children. Are they also wrong? If so, why?
OK.
Lets start at the beginning. Before a baby is born, the sperm must enter the egg. If the sperm does not enter the egg, a baby is never born.
In this case, a sperm donor was used to inseminate the egg artificially. If this sperm donation did not occur, the egg would never be fertilized, hence the person would never had existed. No need for an abortion if the egg wasn't fertilized.
As I said before, the TWO CHOICES are to have one parent who used a sperm donor or to have never existed.
What would you have chosen. I would have chosen to be born.
Abortion is never an issue.
I'm talking about this particular situation related to the original posting. Please do not assume that I am talking about all situations especially the type of situation that you mentioned.
Lets start at the beginning. Before a baby is born, the sperm must enter the egg. If the sperm does not enter the egg, a baby is never born.
Agreed
In this case, a sperm donor was used to inseminate the egg artificially.
Here lies the first ethical/moral fault in this circumstance
If this sperm donation did not occur, the egg would never be fertilized, hence the person would never had existed.
And because of the fertilization in this method the child that would have been born to the woman had she gone the morally and ethically correct route, via a Father, another child never came into existence.
No need for an abortion if the egg wasn't fertilized.
You can drop the abortion discussion because neither one of us is speaking to it.
As I said before, the TWO CHOICES are to have one parent who used a sperm donor or to have never existed.
Those aren't the only two choices in this circumstance. There is another choice which was never ruled out by the article. The choice of the woman to have a real Father in the life of the child.
What would you have chosen. I would have chosen to be born.
Like I said before, I would chosen to have a Mother and a Father.
Abortion is never an issue option.
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