Posted on 02/15/2007 6:47:43 PM PST by Mount Athos
Jaron Dansie was inside a Salt Lake City shopping mall when 18-year old Sulejmen Talovic entered the building, pulled a gun and started shooting people at random. As he took shelter inside one of the shops on the first floor, Dansie pulled out his video camera.
“What the… What the hell's going on?” Dansie can be heard saying on the video, in between a barrage of loud gunshots. Dansie, a wedding videographer, said that turning his video camera on was not the first thing on his mind. But his actions led to an intense visual record of the tragic events that happened inside the downtown Trolley Square mall during some of its worst moments.
“I heard [a victim] yelling, ‘Stop, stop, please don't shoot… don't shoot.’ And then heard more shots,” he said. Dansie actually made his way out into the hallway before he started recording, but when he heard gunshots in a shop next door, he ran back.
“When I finally walked past the camera and saw it… I thought, ‘I gotta start filming this,” Dansie said. Startled and panicked, Dansie loaded a tape into his camcorder and got into position – partly hunkered down in the store. Moments later, he says a uniformed Salt Lake City Police officer walked in with his gun drawn. Then, an off-duty police officer, Kenneth Hammond, can be heard identifying himself outside. Dansie, however, wasn't going anywhere.
Seconds later on the tape, Hammond joins the officers to search for the gunman. Then, as both officers see Talovic, Hammond turned and ran for cover. For the next several seconds, shotgun blasts and gunfire from police officers can be heard outside -- followed by silence. Talovic, the gunman, was dead – shot by officers.
In all, the tragedy lasted just six minutes.
coming up on H&C next.
I am waiting for a reason for Sulejmen Talovic doing the shooting. Was he on a Jihad?
ping
predictably, that part of the story has vanished from the media - with the exception of michael savage.
In the age of bloggers it cannot disappear completely. MSM
won't start talking about this until this becomes a common event.
"Although he quit school at 16, Sulejman Talovic often attended Friday prayers at the Al-Noor mosque on 700 East in Salt Lake City, said Salih Omerovic, Ajka's cousin. "
(This mosque is one block from the mall where the shooting took place)
Terror At Trolley Square, SLC [Home Video with AUDIO OF SHOUTS OF "ALLAH AKBAR"]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785707/posts
The Leftist Media said that the Beltway Snipers did it for profit. How could they have made money from what they were doing? They covered up the truth then and they've done it again. The only profit they did it for was the Prophet Mo-ham-mad. This lone Jihadist was probably acting as an independent agent of the worldwide Islamic Jihad. You don't have to belong to an organized Jihadist group to do your part for the cause. There were Nazi supporters living in the U.S. during WW2 that were not members of the German Nazi party but they engaged in subversive activities on their own in order to further the cause of Nazism.
SLTRIB.com: "TROLLEY SQUARE: SUSPECT RARELY SEEN BY HIS NEIGHBORS A high school drop-out, Talovic's life and motive for the shooting remain a mystery" by Matthew D. LaPlante (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police say the gunman met his first two victims in the parking lot, firing off two rounds as they fell. "Die, motherf-----," Talovic said to them, according to one witness. Talovic appears to have uttered few further words. Witnesses said he moved deliberately through the ground floor corridors, firing round after round at helpless others, sometimes swearing, sometimes ordering his victims not to look at him. In seemingly random fashion, showing no emotion, he slaughtered five people and seriously wounded four others.") (Last updated February 14, 2007, 01:29 AM MST)
DESERET NEWS.com: "6 MINUTES OF HORROR: SHOOTER AIMED TO KILL AS MANY AS HE COULD" by Pat Reavy and Ben Winslow (ARTICLE SNIPPET: ""His intent was to shoot as many people as he possibly could," said Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. Police released details Tuesday on Talovic's shooting rampage that left five people dead before off-duty Ogden police officer Ken Hammond and four Salt Lake City police officers killed him in "a shootout," Burbank said. Four other shooting victims are hospitalized. Talovic was armed with a shotgun, a .38-caliber handgun and "a backpack full of ammunition," Burbank said. Around the man's waist was a bandolier of shotgun shells. "He had a pump shotgun," said one witness, DeEtta Barta. "He was shooting, and he shot about four shots.") (February 14, 2007)
Well he did yell "Allah Ahkbar" three times.
"ALLAH AKBAR"
Heard 3 times at 1:38-1:40 into the video.
Have you heard the crap that is being said. There wasn't enough resources for him, that these people feel like the don;t belong. The whinning and the crying will I don't feel like I belong in CA anymore but I am not going to go crazy over it.
Interesting missed that on the MSM
They're right. They don't belong.
It would be nice if someone in the MSM would have the guts to say what happened here: namely another Muslim attack on America
The enemy is among us.
"The enemy is among us."
The enemy has the news media scared to death.
"They're right. They don't belong."
Let's replace them with 2000 Iraqis as Bush wants to do.
Which video is that on, please?
Salt Lake City police spokeswoman Robin Snyder said Wednesday that police have not discerned a motive or found anything resembling a suicide note. With the permission of Talovic's parents, detectives searched their home but did not take any computers or video games, she said.
Debbie's comments are right on the money:
Why the heck not? What kind of investigation is this? What kind of investigators are these? Not very good ones. Five people are dead, five more in critical or serious condition, including a pregnant woman. The guy is Muslim and apparently a jihadist who wanted to kill as many people as possible and had on his person the ammo to do it. And they aren't going to search his computer?! Hello . . .? Did the country not learn a thing from the episode of FBI Agent Harry Samit being repeatedly denied the right to look at Zacarias Moussaoui's hard drive . . . and then 3,000 Americans were murdered?
In addition, she quotes Bill Warner, a terror expert:
Are you kidding me, 18 year old SULEJMAN TALOVIC unemployed (until Dec. 06), a high school drop out who stays home all the time, isolated by himself, who obviously had been planning the shooting at the Trolley Square Mall for some time, and he is a Muslim who had over 18 of his close relatives executed by the Serbs, and they DO NOT TAKE THE COMPUTERS ?????????????????
Then Debbie quotes an email received from Utah with the following chilling assertions:
According to my friends on the SWAT team who responded to the scene first, the terrorist killed four individuals inside a gift shop Jihad execution style. He actually made them kneel down. Then he put the gun barrel to the back of their heads and killed each one of them one by one.
All I can say is, thank God for an armed citizenry; not everyone is yet ready to sell us down the river, although our elites at numerous levels are about worthless.
No thanks.
Muslims hate valentines.
Is it only coincidence that there were articles last week saying that Valentine's Day was an unacceptable holiday according to the Imans??
It sounds like most of his victims were killed in a Hallmark store.
yep
I'm not getting any sound.
We really need to stop using the word "tragedy" in situations like this. 5 kids getting run over by a bus is a "tragedy".
and Neal Boortz
It helps if the speakers are plugged up. Wife sweeping...
It's not clear to me at all what he's saying.
agree with you, should be saying atrocity instead of tragedy
Here is a muslim scholar discussing Valentine's Day:
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503544946&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaEAskTheScholar
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...and here is islam q & a site discussing Valentine's Day:
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?pg=article&ln=eng&article_id=83
http://media.www.usishield.com/media/storage/paper605/news/2007/02/15/News/Gunman.Kills.5.At.Salt.Lake.City.Mall-2719673.shtml
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ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The card store Cabin Fever had been packed with Valentine's Day shoppers Monday night when the shooting started, store owner David Dean said.
Dean said his assistant manager called him, saying "someone's in the store killing people." The place was "all shot up," Dean said. He said three or four of the victims were shot inside."
save for later
Insane. They come here, where they know valentine's day is a non religious part of the culture, then preach their insane hatred and death.
I understand.
That reminded me of the last verse of that old Negroe spirtual, Do Lord. Now you're going to have to hear the words that are going through my head. Oh Lord, you know, I have no friend like you, if heaven's not my home, oh Lord what will I do? The angels beckon me from heaven's open door and I can't feel at home in this world any more. Do Lord, oh do Lord, oh do remember me.
I can understand that. I'm comparing it to the end of this video where the jihadists are shouting he same thing after they've shot down a helicopter.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/107292/helicopter_shot_down/
It's on the phone video at the top of this thread.
Thanks, Cindy.
Valentine's Day Massacre, the Jihad???
Why, haven't you heard the FBI statement that it's in no way connected to terrorism, and that the Salt Lake PD has been unable to think of any motive for Talovic to exhibit Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?
But there's another interesting story that to my knowledge noone else has yet linked to Sulejmen Talovic. It's almost as if noone wants to even consider the possibility that the mall shootings might be related to the Religion of Peace....
But though its origins are Roman rather than Christian, the celebration of Valentine's Day has been particularly despised by Hindus and Muslums:
Although it is associated by legend with a Catholic saint named Valentine, Valentine's Day is not a religious holiday and never really has been. Valentine's Day has historical roots mainly in Greco-Roman pagan fertility festivals and the medieval notion that birds pair off to mate on February 14.
The feast of St. Valentine was first declared to be on February 14 by Pope Gelasius I around 498. It is said the pope created the day to counter the practice held on Lupercalia, but this is not attested in any sources from that era.
In ancient Rome, February 15 was Lupercalia, the festival of Lupercus (or Faunus), the god of fertility. As part of the purification ritual, the priests of Lupercus would sacrifice goats and a dog to the god, and after drinking wine, they would run through the streets of Rome striking anyone they met with pieces of the goat skin. Young women would come forth voluntarily for the occasion, believing that being touched by the goat skin would render them fertile. Young men would also draw names from an urn, choosing their "blind date" for the coming year. In 494 AD the Christian church under Pope Gelasius I appropriated the some aspects of the rite as the Feast of the Purification.
Valentine's Day backlash has occurred in many Muslim countries. In Pakistan in 2004, the Jamaat-e-Islami party, an Islamist organization, called for a ban on Valentine's Day. One of its leaders dismissed it as "a shameful day" when Westerners "are just fulfilling and satisfying their sex thirst." Also in 2004, the government of Saudi Arabia issued an edict declaring that "there are only two holidays in Islam - Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha - and any other holidays ... are inventions which Muslims are banned from." Police closely monitored stores selling roses and some women were arrested for wearing red.
Despite this official opposition from authorities, many people in Middle Eastern countries seem to be enjoying the new holiday. One shopper, buying a red heart-and-rose card for her son-in-law, is reported as having dismissed the backlash as "only rigidity and cultural backwardness. Through the crackdown, they only buy people's greater hatred and enmity."
We really need to stop using the word "tragedy" in situations like this. 5 kids getting run over by a bus is a "tragedy".
Concur. Compare with Australian reportage of a similar New Years Day Sudden Jihadi Syndrome attack near the Broken Hill mining camp in New South Wales. They get it.
Somehow I don't think someone prone to shooting up a mall is going to research the history of the day in multi-millenial detail. Simply viewing it as an "infidel's celebration of immorality" is motive enough.
There was another thread that discussed the "Allah Akbar" part at some length.
A lot of people on that thread said what was said was "OP, OP" or "OB, OB" then "Ogden Police." That's possible, but what I hear is "Ogden Police, Ogden Police" THEN "Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar."
Will be buried.
It doesn't matter if a white supremacist is a member of the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, some other group, or operating independently. Violent outburts and tendencies are still dangerous to the targets of that hate.
That Imam that was fired from the West Valley Mosque only a few weeks ago... is that the same mosque that this kid would have attended?
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