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Mall gunman survived Bosnian siege
Reuters ^ | 14 February 1007

Posted on 02/14/2007 6:24:15 PM PST by Doctor13

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To: canuck_conservative
Yep his father is still alive, as are many thousands of other Srebrenica men who live in Bosnia, the U.S. or other countries.

Thousands were pouring into Tuzla after the fall, including most of the army.

They unmanned their strong defenses all around the city (as another former Srebrenica soldier living in St. Louis described it) and gathered and walked out of Srebrenica before the Serbs came.

It was purposeful abandonment ordered by their command. They could easily, with their superior military numbers in theatre, and defensive positions, prevented Serbs from "taking" Srebrenica.

It was all arranged to set up the division of the country for Dayton which was being planned at that point with only a few months left of the war and U.S. policy wanting to divide the warring factions at that point (Sec of State Christopher Warren considered it an accomplishment when they were all separated at the end.)

21 posted on 02/14/2007 6:56:37 PM PST by joan
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To: Uncle Hal
Now the media is making excuses for him going on this killing rampage. Unbelievable. The criminal is never guilty it is always somebody else's fault.

Murder is not a normal act. It isn't something that people wake up and decide to do one morning. They get to that point by steps, and killers are in some way broken. Murderers and terrorists are built, not born.

Is that an excuse? Hell, no. I'd be all for throwing the proverbial book at young Mr. Talovic, but for the fact that he's dead. But it's a partial explanation. And those are questions worth asking so we can spot the next killer before he kills. When the coverage bends into mawkish sentiment toward the killer as victim, it's fair to call it out -- but it's not illegitimate per se to dig into his background.

22 posted on 02/14/2007 6:57:44 PM PST by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Utah Binger

It's a great broadhead.


23 posted on 02/14/2007 6:58:49 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: joan
They can't help themselves and have no personal responsibility for anything bad they ever do.

You hit upon the drumbeat by our media and the mooselimbs since and before 911. They are just victims and we have to understand why they hate us.......
Oh well....never underestimate the power of the media to cover-up and lie, when it comes to the truth.

24 posted on 02/14/2007 6:59:20 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: Doctor13

And a very dangerous survivor of the siege, at that.


25 posted on 02/14/2007 7:03:11 PM PST by popdonnelly (Conservatives must have their own long march through the institutions.)
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To: Doctor13

"Mall gunman survived Bosnian siege"

Nice.
For a moment there I thought somebody in the media actually might find
a Muslim culpable in a blood-bath of innocents.
But they found the usual escape clause:
"It's the Christians' fault we're blood-thirsty, murderous nut-jobs".


26 posted on 02/14/2007 7:06:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: NorCalRepub

"...Muzzie=Muslim..."

A little correction:

muzzie=muslim

I NEVER use uppercase letters when talking about those cutl members. To do so would infer respect. They have not earned ANY respect, hence the lowercase treatment.


27 posted on 02/14/2007 7:19:50 PM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE IRS.)
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To: VOA

Good God, have these apologists no shame?

The Muslim murdered innocent people. His is a group mindset that imbues these twisted beliefs.

The Huns are at the door and cowards cow within the house.

May God help us.


28 posted on 02/14/2007 7:25:00 PM PST by the final gentleman
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To: Doctor13

Let's see . . . you watch a bunch of people get massacred as part of a series of massacres that has gone on through the better part of a millenium. You flee, adopt a new home, and decide to exact revenge on a shopping mall full of Mormons half way around the world?


29 posted on 02/14/2007 7:26:04 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: the final gentleman

We are literally witnessing the end of western civilization. It was good while it lasted, but now we no longer have the mettle to fight for this republic.


30 posted on 02/14/2007 7:27:39 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Doctor13
Good case for rearming the Serbs.
31 posted on 02/14/2007 7:29:44 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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Spin Bump


32 posted on 02/14/2007 7:32:43 PM PST by DocRock (What would Solomon Do?)
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To: NCC-1701
BTW, when the H*LL did 'moslem' become 'muslim'? Probably the same time that Peking became Bei-Jing and Shanghai became something unpronouncable.

Mid-1070s, and the NYT took the lead.

Til I die, Peking will be PEKING and Mao-Tse-Tung will be Mao-Tse-Tung. And the enemies of humanity known as moslems will be moslems (or, more accurately, Mohammedans, as they used to be called....)

And the PC media can go and ***K themselves.

33 posted on 02/14/2007 7:36:52 PM PST by Al Simmons (Rudy/Romney? Sounds like a winner to me.....)
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To: Al Simmons

That should have read "Mid-1970s" above...


34 posted on 02/14/2007 7:37:19 PM PST by Al Simmons (Rudy/Romney? Sounds like a winner to me.....)
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To: canuck_conservative
Sulejman and his mother were evacuated by the United Nations and later reunited with his father, Redzo said.

So in a gesture of thanks he murders 6 innocent people.

35 posted on 02/14/2007 7:39:37 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Doctor13

So, it's Clinton's fault...


36 posted on 02/14/2007 7:40:35 PM PST by citizencon
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To: sure_fine

Absolutely not. He killed people. Forget his motivations; just try him, convict him, and punish him. Bosnia is Bosnia and the U.S. is the U.S.


37 posted on 02/14/2007 7:45:23 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Al Simmons

"...BTW, when the H*LL did 'moslem' become 'muslim'?..."

I haven't the foggiest. But, whatever the spelling and pronunciation, I render ZERO respect unto them. Since they are he!!-bent on changing the world to suit them, respect will not be forthcoming from me. They are a dangerous cult and should be treated as such.


38 posted on 02/14/2007 7:54:08 PM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE IRS.)
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To: Zeppo

The siege of Srebrenica went on for a long time...the killer apparently was there for part of it but left a couple of years before the enclave was captured. He would have been about 7 when Srebrenica fell, so about 5 when he fled from there.


39 posted on 02/14/2007 8:01:45 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: keats5

I'd say the people who are willing to fight are being shackled by all the pansies and lawyers. Some day the people willing to fight may be free to do so, but it will truly have to be hell in America before that time comes.


40 posted on 02/14/2007 8:06:52 PM PST by johnmark7
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