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A Giuliani Fundraising Mailer (appallingly invokes Reagan for un-Republican, anti-Reagan candidate)
National Journal: The Hotline ^ | 14 February 2007

Posted on 02/14/2007 3:26:41 PM PST by Spiff

A Giuliani Fundraising Mailer

The Rudy Giuliani Exploratory Cmte. sent out fundraising letters on 2/5.

In a letter, Giuliani paints himself as Reagan 2.0, quoting the fmr. pres. as saying "The future belongs to the free." Giuliani: "Today, as Republicans, we need to restore that optimistic spirit to our party and to the national political debate that is shaping the future of this great nation."

Giuliani writes that he believes the GOP is the "party of freedom" and then lays out the party platform of low taxes, small gov't, entitlement reform, and school choice, and then lists his GOP record as Reagan's Associate AG and NYC Mayor.

To give you the extra confidence for your investment, manager Mike Duhaime attaches a "Memorandum" addressed to "Team Rudy" detailing recent nat'l poll numbers, all of which show, on average, Giuliani leading John McCain. "More importantly," he includes polling numbers in early primary states, which are also mostly favorable toward Giuliani.

Giuliani writes: "I'm humbled by early polls that show me leading the race nationaly and in key primary states. I am ready for the tremendous amount of hard work that lies ahead to earn our party's nomination, and I would count on the help from party leaders like you."

Oh, and the 9/11 reference: "In the dark days after September 11th, I knew that the United States would neet the crisis and rise to new heights. Because people who live in freedom have much more strength than people who live in oppression." He goes on to compare it to the "story of the Old Testament ... the Second World War ... (and) the history our generation writes when we win the War on Terror."

Contribution Levels: $25, $50, $100, $250, $500, $1K

And the incentive: "Your 1st Class Stamp is an added gift!"


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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This is very offensive to the legacy of Ronald Reagan. Not only are Giuliani's liberal views nearly the polar opposite of Reagan's conservative views, but Giuliani actually opposed Reagan because of the President's views while running for Mayor of New York City.

This is from the confidential Giuliani campaign document from the 1993 mayoral campaign that was released on Monday of this week:

"The Giuliani campaign should emphasize its candidate's independence from traditional national Republican policies. Especially useful in this strategy is Giuliani's role in overturning a Reagan administration attempt to throw disabled people off the Social Security rolls, his prosecution of Republican elected officials -- especially his authorization for call his boss, Attorney General Edwin Meese III, a sleaze, and his un-Republican views on many social issues of concern to New Yorkers, like abortion, gun control and bias protection for homosexuals."

Just as the campaign admits that Giuliani is "un-Republican", he is also the anti-Reagan based upon his appallingly liberal views. To invoke Reagan, as he does in this campaign literature, is extremely deceitful and offensive. And it demonstrates that he has no shame and will stop at nothing - there is no low that he won't stoop to - to get elected.

Go here to read 27 damning pages of that 450-page document:

1 posted on 02/14/2007 3:26:46 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Jim Robinson; dirtboy; Reagan Man; EternalVigilance; narses; TitansAFC; Liz; jla; NapkinUser; ...

(((STOP RUDY 2008)))


2 posted on 02/14/2007 3:28:17 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Ruh-Roh! The Rudyphiles are not gonna like this.


3 posted on 02/14/2007 3:28:17 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: Spiff
The letter talks about the party platform. Here's how Rudy really rates compared to that platform:

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Overturning Roe v. Wade Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

4 posted on 02/14/2007 3:30:05 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Giuliani writes that he believes the GOP is the "party of freedom"

Rudy's platform of freedom:

You are free to come to this country illegally, come to New York and never had anyone in the employ of the city government inquire about your immigration status.

You are free to promote a perverted lifestyle. Heck, I'll even join your parades.

You are free to dismember your fetus. We'll even provide city funding if you can't pay for it.

However, you are not free to own a gun to defend yourself. Only the police can keep you safe.

5 posted on 02/14/2007 3:30:31 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy
Rudy's platform of freedom:

You are free to come to this country illegally, come to New York and never had anyone in the employ of the city government inquire about your immigration status.

You are free to promote a perverted lifestyle. Heck, I'll even join your parades.

You are free to dismember your fetus. We'll even provide city funding if you can't pay for it.

However, you are not free to own a gun to defend yourself. Only the police can keep you safe.

Some might dismiss your platform as hyperbole, but those who know Giuliani's actual record as Mayor know that your list hits Giuliani positions with laser-guided accuracy. Good job!

6 posted on 02/14/2007 3:32:35 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Giuliani writes that he believes the GOP is the "party of freedom" and then lays out the party platform of low taxes, small gov't, entitlement reform, and school choice, and then lists his GOP record as Reagan's Associate AG and NYC Mayor.

Good for Rudy! Freedom is my #1 issue too.

7 posted on 02/14/2007 3:33:03 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Glad to see you endorse Rudy's platform of freedom that I laid out in post #5! I would expect nothing less from you!


8 posted on 02/14/2007 3:35:08 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Spiff

I cannot take credit. With Rudy, the contradictions are so obvious that a blind man can see them.


9 posted on 02/14/2007 3:36:06 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Spiff
In a letter, Giuliani paints himself as Reagan 2.0,...

To paraphrase a quote, "Mr. Giuliani, You are no Ronald Reagan".

Perhaps delusional is a better description of the man.

10 posted on 02/14/2007 3:38:19 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Spiff

If you spent as much time working for the candidate of your choice instead of bashing Rudy, perhaps you might get somewhere.






11 posted on 02/14/2007 3:42:28 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Spiff
I knew who Ronald Reagan was.

Ronald Reagan was a conservative Republican.

Rudy Giuliani is a liberal Republican.

Rudy Giuliani....... you're NO Ronald Reagan!!!

And you won't get my vote either.

12 posted on 02/14/2007 3:42:28 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: dirtboy

I was responding to post #1. Freedom matters to me. Including the freedom to do things that you and others disapprove of(s).


13 posted on 02/14/2007 3:42:55 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Reagan Man

Reagan hired Rudy, you know.


14 posted on 02/14/2007 3:43:47 PM PST by HitmanLV ("I mean, that's a storybook, man!")
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To: Spiff
On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.



The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS

15 posted on 02/14/2007 3:44:12 PM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: Sunsong
Including the freedom to do things that you and others disapprove of(s).

Freedom to dismember a fetus - paid for with tax dollars if necessary. Freedom to come here illegally and get sanctuary in NYC. Freedom to promote perversion as morally equivalent to marriage.

Some freedom.

16 posted on 02/14/2007 3:45:10 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Spiff

17 posted on 02/14/2007 3:45:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Hildy; Spiff
If you spent as much time working for the candidate of your choice instead of bashing Rudy, perhaps you might get somewhere.

Perhaps, however a viable Republican hasn't hit the MSM as of yet and since this is an article driven site...

18 posted on 02/14/2007 3:46:31 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Hildy
If you spent as much time working for the candidate of your choice instead of bashing Rudy, perhaps you might get somewhere.

If the GOP nominates Rudy, it will go nowhere.

19 posted on 02/14/2007 3:46:58 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Spiff
Rudy's campaign is moving thru the nation like Rollin' Thunder.

All the turkeys better get out of the way.

20 posted on 02/14/2007 3:47:07 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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