[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

The fact that Rudy drove the porn merchants out of Times Square, spoke out against fatherless children and out-of-wedlock births, and spoke out against taxpayer funded "art" that mocked Christianity is lost on the rabid social-issue conservatives.

Their candidates didn't do zilch to advance social conservatism while keeping a chair warm in Congress for years, even decades, so they have to trash the front-runner, the guy with the solid record, in out-and-out naked desperation.

[Reagan Man]

You don't get it.

Cleaning up Times Square, eliminating the squeegee-men, arresting public urinators and catching turnstile jumpers in no way compares to Rudy`s political positions on the major social issues. Rudy remains:

~ Pro-choice ~ Supports Abortion on Demand ~ Supports Partial Birth Abortion ~ Supports Roe v. Wade ~ Supports Taxpayer Funded Abortions ~ Supports Embryonic Stem Cell ~ Opposes a Federal Marriage Amendment ~ Supports Gay Domestic Partnership/Civil Unions ~ Supports Openly Gay Military ~ Opposes Defense of Marriage Act ~ Supports Amnesty for Illegal Aliens: AKA. "regularization" ~ Supports Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens ~ Opposes Tough Penalties for Employers who hire Illegal Aliens ~ Supports Sanctuary Cities/Ignoring Immigration Law ~ Supports gun control and Confiscating firearms ~ Supports an Assault Weapons Ban ~ Initiated Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers ~ Supports Extensive Gun Registration and Licensing.

These are the issues that will matter to most conservatives when they go to the primary polls to choose a GOP candidate to match up against the Democrat candidate. Rudy is outside mainstream social conservatism. Not to mention Rudy`s fiscal record of a big govt Republican. Rudy left behind a big deficit, massive debt and an overall poor fiscal record. The scope of NYCity government was not reduced at all. From 1997 to 2001, spending under Giuliani went up 32%, more then double the rate of inflation.

Sorry. The facts don't help Rudy at all.

[nopardons]

It's fear that drives them and that fear has now begun to reach the hysteria stage.

[goldstategop]

Good point. Social conservatives have to ask themselves if they want a President who will appoint strict constructionist judges or if they want a President who will appoint none.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[MEGoody]

Their candidates didn't do zilch to advance social conservatism while keeping a chair warm in Congress for years

Maybe you should take a look at Duncan Hunter's activities.

[Redcloak]

That's all great stuff. It's just too bad that he's an anti-gun wingnut.