Posted on 02/11/2007 4:39:05 AM PST by billorites
So, there's scientific consensus on global warming, right? Yes and no. But question that at your own peril. You might be labeled a heretic.
The International Panel on Climate Change's latest report concludes with "very high confidence" that the net effect of man's activities has been a warming of the earth's atmosphere. On that point, there is broad agreement. But get into the details and scientific disputes break out like black flies in spring.
Does warming create more intense hurricanes? "Some researchers say global warming appears to have contributed to more intense hurricanes, while others argue there is no evidence of that," Reuters reported last week.
That is just one of numerous scientific disputes over the details of global warming. Then there are the policy questions.
Which is more responsible for warming the planet: cars or cows? Cars, right?
"Cattle-rearing generates more global warming greenhouse gases, as measured in CO2 equivalent, than transportation," concluded a United Nations report last November. But while Detroit is marketing cleaner cars, no one has figured out how to produce a cleaner cow. Climate change is complex. How to deal with it? On that there is little agreement. Which brings us to the folks who want us all to drop everything and take immediate action, whatever that might be.
Portsmouth-based Cool Air - Clean Planet issued a press release on the IPCC report under the headline: "Don't pick IPCC report apart; come together to act."
Adam Markham, executive director of the group, said, "It is no longer a matter of if the water will rise or even, quite literally, how high. The only question is, how fast can we do what we must do to stop it."
Actually, there are lots of questions. Such as, how high might oceans rise and over how long, what will be the effects, what can be done, how much will various options cost, and what precise benefits would each bring?
But Markham and his group want no inconvenient questions. The press release urged people not to "look at nuances in data points among the various elements of the IPCC report." Instead, it said, policymakers should "ignore those who might attempt to undermine the seriousness of the IPCC report." The report, you see, is serious, and anyone who questions it is a heretic to be ignored.
If this sounds a little bit like political intimidation, well, it is. That press release was issued the day before the IPCC report came out. Its simple message: Don't question authority! Just do as we say!
The Act Now, Think Later crowd has become the Spanish Inquisition, minus the physical torture. Don't question the orthodoxy or look at the fine print, just sit back and let us tell you how things are and what we're going to do about it. Oh, and when we quadruple your taxes to save the planet, you are not to question that, either.
While the global warming Inquisition may not have physical torture, be prepared for economic torture when such measures as a carbon tax etc. are enacted by the environm.ental zealots
Related story and thread from yesterday's paper.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1782796/posts?page=28
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." [H. L. Mencken]
Get ready to live in trees..... Because you can't afford to live any other way...
There is?!
We need a FART TAX.....that's the answer......recycle Cow Farts. So, in the future, you have a machine hooked to the cows....well, you know, t$t's, and now a long suction tube hooked to the cows behind, sucking the precious CO2, smelly but precious to run the cars or whatever one might recycle CO2 for....
lolol...:))
Some years ago, I read that the world's cockroach population respiration produces over 400 times the carbon dioxide as all human endeavors combined. So it's obvious that global warming is a problem that will be difficult to, uh, stamp out.
Freedom of Speech is threatened by adovcates of evolution, global warming, diversity, etc.
I hope that we understand that Pastor Niemoller's statements made about his situation in Germany have application to Americans today.
"First they came for the ......., but I said nothing because I wasn't a .........
Then they came for the ........, but I said nothing because I wasn't........
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me...."
Freedom of speech is threatened and this is no joke.
Freedom is threatened in other ways with trans-fat laws, obesity programs involving measuring of students body mass in schools and the the anti-smoking crusade that uses "health" excuses to control people.
And the governor here (Rendell) is trying incremental gun laws, too.
All people who still want to be free need to listen up and unite. You may believe in evolution, but censoring those who don't agree is wrong. The same goes for global warming, diversity rules, hate crimes laws, anti-obesity and anti-smoking rules and laws.
All mentioned above attack freedom. Lets get it and not be like Pastor Niemoller.
Defend freedom now.
H.A.A.R.P. --how quickly...we..forget
Boycott New Hampshire heretics!
New Zealand had a lesbian government that enacte a flatulance tax on its sheep, but I am sure they would never let us eradicate the cockroaches. Wouldn't that require DDT?
Freedom of Speech is threatened by adovcates of evolution, global warming, diversity, etc.
"If this sounds a little bit like political intimidation, well, it is. That press release was issued the day before the IPCC report came out. Its simple message: Don't question authority! Just do as we say!"
Don't need science and burden of proof when there's faith. Have faith. That's what the authorities have been promoting. Relying on faith rather than the burden of proof that is science.
All people who still want to be free need to listen up and unite. You may believe in evolution, but censoring those who don't agree is wrong. The same goes for global warming, diversity rules, hate crimes laws, anti-obesity and anti-smoking rules and laws.
Where faith rules censoring follows. Galileo may be the most well known victim of propaganda but the tradition is just as prevalent today.
All mentioned above attack freedom. Lets get it and not be like Pastor Niemoller. Defend freedom now.
They best you'll get is mostly Quasi freedom fighters on FR because most people chose faith rather than burden of proof science.
I would love to see someone who has the time to research the carbon footprint of Gore, Pelosi and Boxer...Gore has three houses and travels all over the world..Pelosi now has her private jet, owns vineyards, hotels and no doubt a very large mansion and Boxer also has a very large abode, these three has been especially outspoken on Global Warming..I would love for someone to rat them out for the hypocrites they are.
I read somewhere that Gore "bought" carbon offsets,where does that money go or is it just a scam??
Although I have faith as a follower of Christ, the faith that exists on many of these issues like global warming, diversity and obesity is a legalistic and humanistic faith.
Christ himeself warned of Pharisees and Saducees. I see poeple like this in the world around me every day. People creating 11th, 12th, 13th Commandments, etc. and forgetting the first ten, which would serve them well enough.
Government needs to be limited to the basics in so many ways.
We need to prosecute and punish people for what they do, not what they think or say (ethnic intimidation, hate crimes).
We establish a principle of Soviet like law that makes speech a crime and that will lead to other Soviet style laws that punish people for other things they think or say.
Although I have faith as a follower of Christ, the faith that exists on many of these issues like global warming, diversity and obesity is a legalistic and humanistic faith.
Christ himeself warned of Pharisees and Saducees. I see poeple like this in the world around me every day. People creating 11th, 12th, 13th Commandments, etc. and forgetting the first ten, which would serve them well enough.
Government needs to be limited to the basics in so many ways.
We need to prosecute and punish people for what they do, not what they think or say (ethnic intimidation, hate crimes).
We establish a principle of Soviet like law that makes speech a crime and that will lead to other Soviet style laws that punish people for other things they think or say.
On that point, there is broad agreement.
Broad agreement? And absolutely no proof. Where is the evidence?
"On that point, there is broad agreement."
Hmmm. Well, in the 1850's, there was "broad agreement" among scientists that blacks' intellects were hopelessly inferior to whites.
In the 1890's, there was "broad agreement" among scientists that heavier-than-air machines could never fly.
We should all probably be very cautious whenever there is "broad agreement" among scientists!
I offer one word - "GROUPTHINK" (look it up!)
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