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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

I don't know about anyone else, but I am still waiting for Michael Schiavo to make a correction on his blog about what "actually" took place in Colorado when he went there (to the debate) to supposedly ask Congresswoman Musgrave one question and she and her staff supposedly tried to have him removed. He called it, "My unreal night in Colorado - with radio link" (Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 08:05:14 PM PST). I'll say (from what I read) that it was his "unreal night".

As I said before in "Standing up and Admitting a Mistake: Not Schiavo's Style?",  if four uniformed officers were around my seat, I would have some idea of what was going on. I certainly wouldn't be sitting in "duh mode" to only be told later of what took place right there around me, as Michael suggests he was. If Michael's account is realistic -- his response and reaction is not. Nor is his response appropriate now that he has "learned" what he was "allegedly told" is not what took place. One would think if he can't get the words out that he was mistaken, he could at least have removed the inaccurate entry from his blog.

He has done neither.

I'm also still waiting to read about, "Also, maybe tomorrow I'll post about my election-eve rally with Bill Clinton in Florida." (A real election impact by Michael Schiavo, Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:34 AM PST).  Indeed, I would love to read that story by Michael, since I read it was not possible. Not if he was implying it was the Bill Clinton that is the former President of the United States. Will be interesting to see what he says about that if he ever does.

If Michael couldn't get it straight what happened at the Musgrave debate or even if he spent election-eve with former President Bill Clinton -- do you suppose he might have gotten Terri Schiavo's wishes mixed-up as well? (He does claim to have a bad memory from what I read.) Makes one wonder. At least makes me wonder. Whatever...

I'm still waiting for the corrections if not the explanations!

 

Carrie Hutchens is a former law enforcement officer and a freelance writer who is active in fighting against the death culture movement and the injustices within the judicial and law enforcement systems.


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KEYWORDS: michael; michaelschiavo; schiavo; schiavomurderedterri; schindler; terri; terridailies; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: 8mmMauser
I was just looking at that one and thinking what wusses we have become. The teacher was guilty of heresy! He should have been burned at the stake!! All they did was fire him. Bunch of pantywaists.

/ tongue in cheek. :-)

1,001 posted on 03/25/2007 4:37:55 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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>> ...a part-time biology teacher at Sisters High School was fired by the school board Monday night for deviating...

Deviating! Deviating! Do you remember such liberal battle cries as "free inquiry," "freedom of conscience" and "academic freedom!"? Or try this, from my Alma Mater...


1,002 posted on 03/25/2007 4:53:31 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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Two years ago, today..

It is one thing to look on as an observer and realize the MSM and the court system are faulty. It is quite another to witness an event unfolding, and to realize exactly what was going on and to see it twisted by both the MSM and our legal system. The sorrowful shock of witnessing such a flipping of the truth takes the breath away. Suddenly one realizes he is surrounded by a media, by a legal system, by detractors and they simply shout down the truth. In liberal fashion, they outvote the truth as they think they outvote God. Reminds me of the old line, "Say it ain't so, Joe."

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[JURIST] In a startling turn of events in the Schiavo case that could be taken as either revelation or desperation, attorneys for Terri Schiavo's parents argued at a late Friday emergency hearing by telephone with a Florida circuit court judge that she told them last Friday - after her feeding tube was removed [JURIST report] - that she wanted to live. Attorney Barbara Weller claimed in a supporting affidavit [text] that she had been interacting with Schiavo and that at one point she told Schiavo that the matter could end if Schiavo could just say “I want to live.” Weller claimed that Schiavo responded to her, articulating the sounds "Ahhhhhhh" and "Waaaaaaaa". but could not continue.

When asked by Judge George Greer why something had not been said about this earlier, principal Schindler attorney David Gibbs said he had been busy preparing for federal trial of Schiavo's case. Michael Schiavo attorney George Felos dismissed the contention that Terri Schiavo had communicated, calling it outrageous, a stall tactic and not reflective of any intent. Late this afternoon the Schindlers' attorneys also filed to have Judge George Greer removed from hearing any further motions in the Schiavo case on the grounds that he had persistently ruled against them over the past seven years and could not be impartial. Greer immediately denied that motion and said he would rule on the other motion on Schiavo's alleged statement by Noon Saturday. ABC WTSP-TV in Tampa has more.

UPDATE ~ Schindler attorney claims Schiavo said she wants to live

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1,003 posted on 03/25/2007 4:54:42 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Maybe this would be an appropriate tagline for today's discussion? :-)


1,004 posted on 03/25/2007 5:01:13 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals say there are two sides to every issue: theirs and one that should be brutally suppressed.)
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Two years ago today...

This story appeared:

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CLEARWATER, Fla. -- A state judge refused Thursday to hear Gov. Jeb Bush's arguments to take custody of Terri Schiavo, leaving the brain-damaged woman's parents with only the slimmest hopes in their fight to keep her alive.

Bush's request cited new allegations of neglect and challenges the diagnoses that Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state, but Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer wasn't convinced.

  Greer's decision came hours after the U.S. Supreme Court refused to order her feeding tube reinserted. The decisions reduce chances for quick intervention to reconnect the tube, which was pulled last Friday. Doctors have said Schiavo, 41, likely would die in a week or two without nourishment.

Schiavo's husband, Michael, had urged the high court Thursday not to intervene, saying her case has been endlessly litigated and state courts have agreed with him that she would want to die.

The appeal by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, was part of a rush of legal activity in the unprecedented right-to-die struggle. They have frantically tried to reconnect the tube because they deny Michael Schiavo's arguments that she has no hope for recovery and that she would not have wanted to live in such a state.

Fla. Judge Won't Hear Schiavo Arguments

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1,005 posted on 03/25/2007 5:02:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

That says it.


1,006 posted on 03/25/2007 5:05:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Two years ago today...

WND reported:

Those hoping Florida Gov. Jeb Bush will step forward to save Terri Schiavo from imminent, court-ordered starvation death are likely to be disappointed, based on his comments to a group of reporters following Circuit Court Judge George Greer's ruling against the state's effort to take custody of the brain-injured woman at the center of worldwide controversy.

While Bush reiterated his motivation to save Schiavo, based on new evidence that she is not in a persistent vegetative state and is, to some degree, conscious of her surroundings, the governor said "it isn't possible to remove her" from the hospice.

Earlier in the week, there were hints from the Bush administration that the Department of Children and Families might use force, if necessary, to stabilize Terri Schiavo and remove her from the facility.

STARVATION: DAY 8... Jeb Bush not likely to ride to rescue... Florida governor indicates he won't defy court order

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1,007 posted on 03/25/2007 5:09:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Two years ago today...

MSM does a monumental job of ignoring Rome:

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So much has been written and said about the Terry Schiavo case in the United States that I hesitate to add anything here. It's already well-known that the Holy See has been outspoken; three senior Vatican officials have appealed directly on Schiavo's behalf, including Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace; Cardinal Javier Lozano Barrigan, president of the Pontifical Council for the Health Care Pastoral; and Bishop Elio Sgreccia, president of the Pontifical Academy for Life.

The American press, already accustomed to the engagement of religious conservatives on Schiavo's behalf, has not given a great deal of attention to these Vatican interventions, treating them as largely pro forma.

In fact, however, if one sees these statements through the lens of normal Vatican operating procedure rather than the particular contours of American debate, they're really rather extraordinary. As a general rule, Vatican officials restrict themselves to enunciating general principles, treating particular cases, pieces of legislation or elections as something for local bishops to address. Readers will remember, for example, during the American debate over communion for pro-choice Catholic politicians, that Vatican officials outlined the general rules in church law but never even cited the name "John Kerry" in doing so.

The willingness to enter into the particulars on Schiavo, therefore, suggests that officials in the Holy See regard this case as of singular importance, analogous in the camp of "Culture of Life" issues to the Rocco Buttiglione case in Europe in the area of "secular fundamentalism." In both instances, several Vatican officials (including, both times, Martino) believed that something so unjust, so potentially important in terms of precedent value, was taking place that it had to be denounced by name.

From the point of view of the Schiavo drama, the Vatican is no doubt a bit player. Its role is, nevertheless, unusual, and may signal a growing willingness on the part of at least some Vatican officials to get down to brass tacks when key moral and cultural questions are at stake.

The Word from Rome

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1,008 posted on 03/25/2007 5:18:35 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Read this slowly and carefully. It points to a structural weakness in the legal system that was exploited to commit a private murder. If the trial judge is biased or crooked, if he shapes the verdict by unfairly excluding evidence, there is no recourse. Higher courts won't even look at it.

...the Schindlers' attorneys also filed to have Judge George Greer removed from hearing any further motions in the Schiavo case on the grounds that he had persistently ruled against them over the past seven years and could not be impartial. Greer immediately denied that motion...

1,009 posted on 03/25/2007 5:26:56 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals say there are two sides to every issue: theirs and one that should be brutally suppressed.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> the governor said "it isn't possible to remove her" from the hospice.

Hear the little mousie squeak.

1,010 posted on 03/25/2007 5:29:51 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals say there are two sides to every issue: theirs and one that should be brutally suppressed.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Says this reporter, "Thank God the end product of modern journalism is usually more impressive than the path we sometimes take to get there."

The end product of modern journalism is much like the end product of a horse, except it's poorer quality and not nearly as useful.

1,011 posted on 03/25/2007 5:37:19 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals say there are two sides to every issue: theirs and one that should be brutally suppressed.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Isn't this a bit like blocking the entrance to a killing clinic?

I admire this young man.

As I watched him do it, I wished I'd had his courage.


1,012 posted on 03/25/2007 7:04:40 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: T'wit

An important point.


1,013 posted on 03/25/2007 11:57:31 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser
FROM THE STATE THAT BROUGHT ABORTION TO AMERICA: Our humble effort to reverse the death ethic that led to Terri's demise. For info about dinner with Dr. Keyes, Judie Brown and Rev Flip Benham to benefit Colorado Right to Life, call 303-753-9394.
1,014 posted on 03/25/2007 12:52:54 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
May others be so willing and hard working as Colorado Right to Life. See post #1,014 from LesforLife above...

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On the Rule of Law regarding the intentional killing of innocent people,
including by abortion, suicide, and euthanasia,
I commit myself to upholding without exception God’s enduring command, “Thou Shall Not Murder.”

 

My commitment to God’s prohibition of murder means that:

 

-  I will never approve of any judicial ruling which in any way violates Do Not Murder.

-  I will withhold backing from any judge who issues or defends rulings that violate Do Not Murder.

-  I will oppose any law which violates Do Not Murder by allowing the intentional killing of any innocent.

-  I will never support any law that regulates the killing of the innocent.

-  I will never support any law that effectively ends, “and then you can kill the innocent.”

-  I will agree that, “Do not kill the innocent” (Exodus 23:7) applies even to the baby fathered by a criminal.

-  I will recognize that it is morally acceptable to let an irreversibly dying person die.

-  I will teach others that it is wrong to starve people to death, including the elderly, infirm, disabled, and infants.

-  I will never support any attempt to “do evil that good may come of it” (Romans 3:8).

-  I will oppose any man-made process where it requires compromise on “You shall not murder” (Rom. 13:9).

-  I will oppose any philosophy that elevates man’s law above God’s enduring command, “Thou Shall Not Murder.”

-  I will never allow political goals to move me to compromise on Do Not Murder.

-  I will never in any way legitimize the intentional killing of innocent people, from fertilization to natural death.

-  I will recognize that any pro-life effort that compromises on Do Not Murder is a false hope.

-  I will teach others that whenever these two authorities conflict, “we must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

 

Signature: ______________________________ Date: ____________ Print Name ______________________

City:     _________________________________State: _______________Phone:_______________________

 

Background: Forty years and fifty-million victims since Colorado became the first state to legalize the killing of the innocent, this 40/50/1 Commitment comes from Colorado Right to Life, in an effort to correct our own failure. Our state has failed America. And our pro-life community has failed God, because for political reasons we have so often compromised on Thou Shall Not Murder that today we have difficulty discerning right from wrong. Many in America’s pro-life community have become legal positivists, defending our officials, laws, and rulings that intentionally kill the innocent, as long as they comply with our legal process. Sixty years ago at Nuremberg, America prosecuted German judges who had personally opposed the holocaust, but nevertheless upheld and complied with laws to intentionally kill the innocent; today, our Christian pro-life community holds up such officials as the hope and heroes of the pro-life movement, demonstrating our own slide into moral relativism. We have lost the moral high ground, and now watch the suicide, euthanasia and even child euthanasia movements gain ground. We must never again become accessories in the regulation of killing the innocent in the false hope that we thereby move toward victory. When those who fear God will compromise on murder for political gain, the world becomes increasingly dangerous for children and the vulnerable.

 

40 Years, 50 Million Dead One Commitment

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1,015 posted on 03/26/2007 3:52:50 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Can we count on this when the chips are down?

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An article in Scientific American asks the question, "How would you feel if your fate was in the 'hands' of a computer?" A study by the National Institutes of Health suggests that computers may be better at determinining the wishes of incapacitated individuals than their family members. For a particular individual, the proposed software program would predict the patient's decision by calling up profiles of patients with similar background in terms of race, education, age, illness, and other factors.

The Terri Schiavo case certainly made more of us aware of the potential anguish faced by family members when our wishes haven't been clearly documented (or even when they have been), and the question of who among our family members is in the best position to make decisions on your behalf. It remains to be seen whether computer technology of this sort promises to ease some of the burden of heart-wrenching choices or will make this gray area in medical decision-making even murkier and more fraught with potential legal trouble than it already is.

Read the full article: Motherboard Knows Best: Should a Computer Make Life-or-Death Decisions?

Computers to make life-or-death decisions?

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1,016 posted on 03/26/2007 3:59:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Two years ago today, in the WND...

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I've yet to hear one liberal enunciate in the Terri Schiavo case the principle that moral law supersedes man's law. But whether they defer to reason or to revelation, I've heard scores of conservatives articulate the a priori truth in this case – which is:

Notwithstanding my own belief in the right to die, the only authority that has jurisdiction over Terri Schiavo is Terri Schiavo. In the absence of a living will or a clear directive from her, a court's decision – no matter which court – cannot be equated with her will. Ditto her husband's hearsay. We simply don't know – and can't divine – Terri's wishes, although it's reasonable to assume that if she wanted to die, she didn't wish for the death she's been dealt.

~Snip~

If the case of poor Terri Schiavo has taught me anything it is how utterly loathsome liberals are. In their ever-so "progressive" zeal for euthanasia, they've discovered principles for which they've hitherto had nothing but contempt. In the liberal vernacular, states' rights are synonyms for discrimination, that is, until Ms. Schiavo. Now Democrats shriek louder than Dixiecrats ever did that the intervention by a federal court in a so-called state (or personal) matter undermines this "cherished" principle. (So they know about the 10th Amendment?)

The only kind of marriage liberals had ever glorified is the gay kind. But thanks to Michael Schiavo, the sanctity of marriage is fast becoming a liberal sacrament, with the proviso it has to involve "mercy killing." It took Michael Schiavo's devoted efforts to starve and dehydrate his wife to restore liberal faith in the institution. As we know, liberals, inexplicably, have insisted over and over again that Terri Schiavo's husband is his helpless wife's sole and indisputable guardian. Furthermore, to liberals, males have always been the guilty party in just about any heterosexual interaction. Michael's monstrous single-mindedness has changed all that.

"We are a nation of laws" is the latest – not last – in liberal two-facedness. The law, after "due process," has sentenced Ms. Schiavo to death, therefore die she must. Illegal aliens are trampling the rule of law and states' rights as we speak. Show me a Democrat who'll support the right of state residents to refuse to teach or medically treat these lawbreakers.

Consider the liberals' "let nature take its course" chant. They generally believe "nature," the animal kingdom in particular, is the appropriate metaphor for civilization. It would apparently do humans a whole lot of good to imbibe even more animal "ethics" than we already practice.

What distinguishes civilized beings from animals, primitive societies and liberals is that they don't see nature as an exemplar of all that is fine and good. To the contrary: The civilized don't abandon the burdensome or the enfeebled to nature. When some of us do, others will always strive to rescue them. The tragedy of Terri is a testament to how irreconcilable certain liberal leanings are with civilization itself.


As she lay dying

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1,017 posted on 03/26/2007 4:11:29 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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>> "How would you feel if your fate was in the 'hands' of a computer?"

Computers are free of Original Sin. Computers do not engage in liberal advocacy. Computers do not deliberately lie. I would trust any one hundred computers over any one hundred editors, writers and readers of Scientific American.

1,018 posted on 03/26/2007 4:12:13 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals say there are two sides to every issue: theirs and one that should be brutally suppressed.)
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To: 8mmMauser

The cross-link posted does not seem to work, but no matter. It's probably an enthusiastic Scientific American story about cross-breeding computers with sheep in order to create perfect Democrats.


1,019 posted on 03/26/2007 4:17:49 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals say there are two sides to every issue: theirs and one that should be brutally suppressed.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Two years ago today, this appeared in Wills, Trusts & Estates Prof Blog

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Terri Schiavo -- Update 20

Earlier today (March 26, 2005), the Florida Supreme Court refused to get involved in Terri's case stating that the court had no jurisdiction to hear the case.  Terri's parents were claiming that removing the feeding tube was akin to a mercy killing.

March 26, 2005 in Current Events, Death Event Planning | Permalink | TrackBack

Terri Schiavo -- Update 19

Earlier today (March 26, 2005), Judge Greer rejected the request by Terri's parents to have her feeding tube reinserted.

March 26, 2005

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1,020 posted on 03/26/2007 4:19:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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