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Muslims Out Of Australia
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp ^ | Jan 31, 2007 | e-mail

Posted on 01/31/2007 10:57:30 AM PST by UScbass

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Austr alia is not for you", he said on National Television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It." "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihad; sharia; terrorism; wot
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Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths! Reead the full article - good read!
1 posted on 01/31/2007 10:57:31 AM PST by UScbass
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To: UScbass

BRAVO!


2 posted on 01/31/2007 10:59:49 AM PST by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: UScbass

Excellent post!!! Thx.


3 posted on 01/31/2007 11:00:12 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: UScbass

I guess if it gets bad enough here after the Democrats force our defeat in Iraq, we can always move to Australia.


4 posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:13 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks, Nancy, but we already have a Commander In Chief!)
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To: UScbass
Kick them ALL OUT!! As has been said before (and much criticized - thus I won't use it as a tag line cause someone else got in trouble around here for it - an done radio show host got fired for saying it - ITS TRUE:

"ISLAM IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION."

5 posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:43 AM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: UScbass

Our political leaders need to learn how to develop a backbone like the Aussies.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:55 AM PST by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: UScbass
Good for the Aussies! "Nip it the the bud!"
7 posted on 01/31/2007 11:03:21 AM PST by avacado
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To: UScbass; All

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=bca2b544-518e-4163-a29d-4fe8c23d1910&k=95849

Welcome! Leave your customs at the door
Quebec town posts cultural code


8 posted on 01/31/2007 11:05:54 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: UScbass

Wow!!!!! Excellent!!!


9 posted on 01/31/2007 11:06:38 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: UScbass

Boy those Aussies are good. Talk about calling them as they see them! Hope they hang tough with this sort of attitude.


10 posted on 01/31/2007 11:07:37 AM PST by Tarheel (If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere... Rudy--2008)
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To: UScbass

I've always debated moving to Australia.... its getting easier and easier to justify the move daily.


11 posted on 01/31/2007 11:07:45 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: UScbass

Outstanding! Wish our US politicians developed a spine to say the same thing.


12 posted on 01/31/2007 11:13:14 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: UScbass

Hope this more then just talk


13 posted on 01/31/2007 11:14:33 AM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: UScbass
The Aussies rock.
14 posted on 01/31/2007 11:15:35 AM PST by theanonymouslurker (Say NO to RINOs)
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To: UScbass

The entire West needs to have this attitude. All cultures are not equal. Radical Islam represents stagnation, backwardness and death. Importing it to our civilization is literally suicidal.


15 posted on 01/31/2007 11:16:30 AM PST by Argus
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To: UScbass

GOD BLESS AUSTRALIA !!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:22 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: UScbass
if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state

Seems to me that a lot of discussion goes on here as to whether the United States is a "secular" Government. If it is, then this is a feasible path for us. If it isn't, then this is a much more muddled direction.

17 posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:24 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: UScbass

WOW, a country that still has a pair!!!

I hear there's some good golf courses in Australia, crikey! What are the taxes there? Sounds like maybe a nice place to go when American descends into a third world country. I can get a dish and watch my NY sports team there too.


18 posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:55 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: HamiltonJay

The problem is, if there were no America, Australia would not last long, nor would any other free country.


19 posted on 01/31/2007 11:18:07 AM PST by onedoug
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To: UScbass

Well I don't think I agree with this, it would seem to me much better to give them a ride to the outback and tell them to walk home.


20 posted on 01/31/2007 11:18:23 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

ping. Go Diggers!


21 posted on 01/31/2007 11:18:44 AM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Dems_R_Losers

They'd first have to repeal their gun bans.


22 posted on 01/31/2007 11:19:35 AM PST by shekkian
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To: UScbass

WOW!! Twice recently, I've had people say they might move to Australia if the Hildabeast gets elected. It's looking mighty tempting.


23 posted on 01/31/2007 11:19:47 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: UScbass
Lest people get confused here, it's worth pointing out that this is from an e-mail that circulated widely in 2005.

scroll to the bottom, per snopes:

The individual statements attributed to Australian government officials included in the e-mail reproduced at the head of this page are thus essentially accurate, but the selectively-quoted excerpts of controversial material from different news stories create the misleading overall impression that Australia enacted a formal policy to force some Muslim groups out of the country. The statements quoted were part of the public debate over an issue that flared briefly in the immediate aftermath of the London Tube bombings, then quietly subsided.

Last updated: 4 April 2006

So, it's essentially a collection of sundry quotes from varous people in the tense time after the bombings, neither official government pronouncement nor representative of current policy.

I just thought we should clarify that for the record here.

24 posted on 01/31/2007 11:21:02 AM PST by leilani
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To: UScbass
"W" really needs to do the same thing - but won't. (sigh)

The Aussies have been standing up against the radical Islamics a lot lately.

Were it not for the gun laws and the high cost of private flying "down under", I'd seriously consider a move.

25 posted on 01/31/2007 11:22:04 AM PST by GoldCountryRedneck ("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
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To: UScbass

Oh to have an elected official in America who has the spine to be so clear!


26 posted on 01/31/2007 11:23:39 AM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: UScbass

Someone has backbone, but he will probably be the target of a series of threats by the proponents of the ideology of death and destruction.


27 posted on 01/31/2007 11:27:24 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: UScbass
Bump!

Perhaps they should also be on the lookout for this little perfidity:


Hiding her identity, a woman takes refuge at a jail in northern Jordan. Women who were raped or had adulterous relationships are kept in jail to protect them from “honor killing” by their families.

(Photo Credit: Ali Jarekji, Reuters)


28 posted on 01/31/2007 11:30:02 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I'm with you...but take water. Australia: The Last Frontier of Freedom.


29 posted on 01/31/2007 11:33:10 AM PST by madison10
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To: UScbass

Boy howdy do the Australians rock. Real men.


30 posted on 01/31/2007 11:34:08 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: madison10

How is a self described "secular state" with the power to force out people of any given religion a "Frontier of Freedom". Sounds more on the totalitarianist side to me. Personally, I'm glad that the US guarantees freedom of religion.


31 posted on 01/31/2007 11:38:04 AM PST by Northeastern_Realist
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To: UScbass

This is great! I admire Howard more and more. And the Brits need to take a lesson from this. We do too.


32 posted on 01/31/2007 11:38:12 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: UScbass

Since this is from SNOPES, the famous urban legend website (motto: Rumor has it...), how sure are you that it is an authentic report?


33 posted on 01/31/2007 11:38:38 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I guess if it gets bad enough here after the Democrats force our defeat in Iraq, we can always move to Australia.

Thinking about it .... but they have very restrictive gun laws.

34 posted on 01/31/2007 11:39:02 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: UScbass
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It." "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

This is it! What Muslims and all other immigrants as well in all of the countries into which they are immigrating ...

are to be told ...

If you do not like it leave. Now.
35 posted on 01/31/2007 11:42:50 AM PST by geologist
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To: UScbass

Hey folks... good story but if one scrolls to the bottom of the "snopes" article you'll find that the article was updated in April of 2006. The post makes it seems as if the news if from 1/31/07. I know it's tough.

Of course, I agree with the notion all together.


36 posted on 01/31/2007 11:46:18 AM PST by arealmansview (Old news isnt' it?)
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To: Northeastern_Realist
Personally, I'm glad that the US guarantees freedom of religion.

Yes, but until we can have islam redefined as something other than a religion, it gives the muzzies a loophole they can drive an explosive-filled truck through.

37 posted on 01/31/2007 11:47:14 AM PST by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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To: UScbass

How about the same mantra the Libs/MSM/DEMS say about Iraq, US out of Iraq now..... how about LIBS/MSM out of USA NOW ?


38 posted on 01/31/2007 11:51:16 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: BuffaloJack

Yeah... at least they " GET IT " .


39 posted on 01/31/2007 11:52:31 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: lilylangtree

Aemobas don't have cartlidge much less bone for a spine.


40 posted on 01/31/2007 12:00:50 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: UScbass

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776720/posts?page=41#41


41 posted on 01/31/2007 12:44:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

What's a nice oceanfront home go for in Australia? Somewhere warm and sunny perhaps.


42 posted on 01/31/2007 12:53:28 PM PST by Defiant (Hillary 2008: Because America needs a nude erection, not an Obama Nation.)
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To: leilani

leilani: You're confused. Perhaps in 2005 the issue died down, but over the past 6 months it's very much in the news again in Australia. The clerics are only getting more brazen and the public knows about it.


43 posted on 01/31/2007 12:54:54 PM PST by pacelvi
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To: onedoug

Australia needs nukes and a big navy, and then it may be able to hold out. If the US elects Hillary and goes down the tubes, they will have to come up with something.


44 posted on 01/31/2007 12:55:03 PM PST by Defiant (Hillary 2008: Because America needs a nude erection, not an Obama Nation.)
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To: UScbass
Bravo, Mr Costello.
It seems this fellow has a pair the size of Ayer's Rock.

How much press will this receive in this country?
If any, it will be the libs blasting him for
"insensitivity"....JJ61
45 posted on 01/31/2007 12:57:31 PM PST by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: UScbass

Fabulous! If the muzzies dont like it, Quantas is ready when the government is. Assimilate or get the hell out. Cant see anything wrong with that.


46 posted on 01/31/2007 1:02:07 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: pacelvi

Well, I reiterated exactly word for word what was at the bottom of the link to snopes given as the source at the top of this thread: the email that was posted here today (& the quotes therein) are, word for word, from 2005 & the quotes here were taken verbatim from statements made in the days after the tube bombings. That's explained at the link to snopes given here - nothing confusing to me about that, & I just wanted to clear that up. Some people (incl you?) seem to think that these quotes are of more recent vintage, that's all. It's an old email.


47 posted on 01/31/2007 1:07:26 PM PST by leilani
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Unfortunately, you are correct. Jellyfish have more courage than US politicians.


48 posted on 01/31/2007 1:07:51 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: HamiltonJay
I've always debated moving to Australia...

You should consider Tasmania, a fantastic place, great climate, and they have statues of their famous prostitutes in Hobart. I loved Hobart, almost refused to leave.

49 posted on 01/31/2007 1:21:01 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: UScbass

Thanks for the post. When are the politicians in this country going to realize that the Muslims over here don't want to live as Americans but practice their own religion on their own time. They want all of us to live under their rules.


50 posted on 01/31/2007 1:26:06 PM PST by Mazda3Fan
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