Posted on 01/25/2007 10:58:20 AM PST by windchime
As I watched these events unfold two years ago, I presumed that the Bush DOJ chose not to exploit these stories for reasons of national security. Although seemingly unrelated, both of these stories lead to the same larger secret, a secret that Berger risked his career to conceal, a secret that if revealed had the potential to destabilize the nation during a time of war.
As I have since learned, however, the Bush White House is not fully in control of its own Justice Department and FBI. In truth, the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation.
(Excerpt) Read more at familysecuritymatters.org ...
Me too, although it's not surprising. Seems pretty much in character. . .I think he's a good man.
--And why hasn't Bergler been indicted??? Why should a Rat get preferential treatment??? --
From an older article:
A judge on Thursday ordered Sandy Berger, President Clinton’s national security adviser, to pay a $50,000 fine for illegally taking classified documents from the National Archives.
The punishment handed down by U.S. Magistrate Judge Deborah Robinson exceeded the $10,000 fine recommended by government lawyers. Under the deal, Berger avoids prison time but he must surrender access to classified government materials for three years.
The Intellectually Stunted Practice of Bush-Bashing
Taking into account the incredible events that George W. Bush has had to contend with during his presidency – not to mention the unimaginable amount of irrational and politically cultivated hatred that has been foisted upon him and a mainstream media that facilitates it – I find it hard to believe that either Al Gore or John Kerry could have done any better given the exact set of circumstances. In fact, in the shadow of Harry Reid’s cowardly comment that he and his congressional colleagues don’t have a responsibility to engage in crafting a battle plan for victory in Iraq – or any other battlefield in the war against radical Islamist aggression – I would advance the notion that few could have performed as well.
Pinging collectors of information.
Minority Office Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
Staff Report- Sandy Berger's Theft of Classified Documents: Unanswered Questions (PDF)
A new twist:
From Page 33 of Staff Report
Mr. Berger would normally use her phone to make calls. Mr. Berger would say “Sorry, I have to make a private phone call” and Ms. Smith would take this as her cue to leave. Mr. Berger would normally use her phone to make calls. Ms. Smith left as she trusted Mr. Berger and was aware that Mr. Berger, as National Security Advisor, had generated most of the documents that he was reviewing. However, Ms. Smith did not like leaving her office. This was because she works with sensitive items of the incumbent President and did not feel comfortable leaving Mr. Berger alone with this material, especially on her desk where her phone was located.
Annotated Timeline of the 9/11 Hijackers for Researchers
various | 5/13/02 | compiled from published sources
September 5, 2001—Sakher “Rocky” Hammad, who works for Magic Plumbing and Heating on 93rd Street in Brooklyn, is known to have done work on the sprinkler system in the World Trade Center, and when arrested he has a photo ID WTC visitor’s pass for this date. The identity of the tenant who hired him is not known. On 2/5/02, Hammad is one of five Arab men arrested in connection with the fiery murder of Tennessee drivers’ license examiner Katherine Smith several days earlier. Hammad also spent time in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn in 2000. Link “The sprinkler system had turned on and had started to do something, but it wasn't doing its job as it should, so there was water sloshing down the stairways.” Link (links aren't good)
Suspect in ID fraud goes free on bond (Tennessee)
Memphis Commercial Appeal ^ | March 29, 2002 | Bill DriesMEMPHIS, TN: MEDICAL EXAMINER AMUSHED
The Commercial Appeal ^ | 6/3/02 | Yolanda JonesSmith & Wiley cases
OMG! That's it!
Hitlery has Bush's FBI file.
Ping!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1773636/posts?page=128#128
Windchime found the Brooklyn reference.
Did the 9/11 Commission receive all the documents it requested?
No they did not.
I'm specifically looking at this document: http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-4.pdf
Did you all see the stories about the NJ/NY smell? I keyworded it NJ Farts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=njfarts
It is being reported as Methyl Mercaptan.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1764340/posts
I say the smell is coming from Fresh Kills. I live 20 minutes from there.
The trade center debri went there.
If the smell IS Methyl Mercaptan, then doesn't that mean the Jet fuel wasn't burned off?
Then the towers may have had demolition help?
So, I thought again about Sandy Berger and Able Danger.
Brooklyn was one of the covered up pieces of information about a jihadi cell.
When I first started FR, it was after 9/11. I didn't know how to save links and use keywords. There was a contracting company working on the sprinkler system at the WTC.
I remember that contractor was from Brooklyn.
Thank you Windchime for finding that reference!
Notice, if you read this PDF, you don't see it: http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-4.pdf
They set up 'go betweens'. They hired outside consultants to gather information which inserted another wall.
All that is in the documents are the consulting firms that went and made reports and not information directly from the people involved.
So the 9/11 commission doesn't have the contracting firm from "Brooklyn" which will raise an eyebrow about the Brooklyn connection.
That would have connected to the 'note' Sandy Berger took on the paperwork, "Brooklyn".
Fixing up those links:
September 5, 2001—Sakher “Rocky” Hammad, who works for Magic Plumbing and Heating on 93rd Street in Brooklyn, is known to have done work on the sprinkler system in the World Trade Center, and when arrested he has a photo ID WTC visitor’s pass for this date. The identity of the tenant who hired him is not known. On 2/5/02, Hammad is one of five Arab men arrested in connection with the fiery murder of Tennessee drivers’ license examiner Katherine Smith several days earlier. Hammad also spent time in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn in 2000.
Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/629113/posts
“The sprinkler system had turned on and had started to do something, but it wasn't doing its job as it should, so there was water sloshing down the stairways.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/674846/posts
I'm so glad to have helped! It was just a shot in the dark . . . I was a newbie then, too, but had bookmarked threads of interest re: 9/11.
This is unbelievable.
They are not in here:
http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-4.pdf
And the consultants all wrote up they performed to standards.
The cover up stinks worse then Fresh Kills.
Trust me, that is a big stink.
President Bush is one of the few people I think wouldn't care if she did.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I heard somewhere today that part of his plea agreement was to take a lie detector test, which he has never taken. If he refuses to take it, I suppose his plea agreement become null and void. If officials simply do not require him to take it even though it's stated in the agreement, then that's a most sad state of affairs for this country.
I alone lost $3,000 on that POS stock while Winnick walked away with 100s of millions of $ and Terry McAwfull with ~$16 mil (enough to make Queen Hillary jealous).
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/13/politics/13intel.html?oref=login&pagewanted=print
Mr. Kean and Mr. Hamilton also noted that the name and character of Able Danger had not been publicly disclosed when the commission issued its public report in 2004. They said the commission had concluded that the July 2004 testimony by the Navy officer, who said he had seen an Able Danger document in 2000 that described Mr. Atta as connected to a cell in Brooklyn "was not sufficiently reliable" to warrant further investigation, in part because the officer could not supply documentary evidence to prove it."
And here is the article about 'Brooklyn' being a note on the papers.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165268,00.html
Excerpt:
“The Sept. 11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9/11 of surveillance of Mohammed Atta or of his cell,” said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. “Had we learned of it obviously it would’ve been a major focus of our investigation.”
Hamilton’s remarks Tuesday followed findings by Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, that made front-page news.
In June, Weldon displayed charts on the floor of the U.S. Senate showing that Able Danger identified the suspected terrorists in 1999. The unit repeatedly asked for the information to be forwarded to the FBI but apparently to no avail. Various news outlets picked up on the story this week.
Weldon told FOX News on Wednesday that staff members of the Sept. 11 commission were briefed at least once by officials on Able Danger, but that he does not believe the message was sent to the panel members themselves. He also said some phone calls made by military officials with Able Danger to the commission staff went unreturned.
“Why weren’t they briefed? Was there some deliberate attempt at the staff level of the 9/11 commission to steer the commissioners away from Able Danger because of where it might lead?” Weldon asked. “Why was there no mention of Able Danger?”
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Sept. 11 commission looked into the matter during its investigation of government missteps leading to the attacks and chose not to include it in the final report.
{….]
According to Weldon, Able Danger identified [Mohammed] Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi (search), Khalid al-Mihdar (search) and Nawaf al-Hazmi (search) as members of a cell Able Danger code-named “Brooklyn” because of some loose connections to New York City.
Weldon said that in September 2000, the unit recommended on three separate occasions that its information on the hijackers be given to the FBI “so they could bring that cell in and take out the terrorists.” However, Weldon said Pentagon lawyers rejected the recommendation, arguing that Atta and the others were in the country legally so information on them could not be shared with law enforcement.
“Lawyers within the administration — and we’re talking about the Clinton administration, not the Bush administration — said ‘you can’t do it,’” and put post-its over Atta’s face, Weldon said. “They said they were concerned about the political fallout that occurred after Waco … and the Branch Davidians.”
2002 - 9/11 Commission set up by Congress
3/03 - 9/11 Commission begins first hearings. One of its members is Jamie Gorelick, the person most responsible for the legal firewall between FBI/CIA and sharing intelligence information
Fall/2003 - Briefing given to four 9/11 staff members by defense intelligence officials during an overseas trip to Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia
10/03 - Sandy Berger observed by Archives staff removing documents
3/04 -Madeleine Albright testifies before 9/11 Commission, and defends the Clinton administration's handling of Al-Qaeda and terrorism
4/04 - Condi Rice testifies before 9/11 Commission; states that there was serious problem in sharing intelligence information prior to 9/11
5/04 - Berger testifies before the 9/11 Commission; completely overshadowed by the fact that Richard Clark and George Tenet also testified on the same day (testimony: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/berger_statement.pdf )
7/04 - Berger steps down as an advisor to the Kerry campaign after it is revealed that he was being investigated for removing classified documents from the National Archive
7/04 - 9/11 Commission report issued without any mention of the Able Danger information
4/05 - Berger pleads guilty to removing classified documents
7/05 - Berger's sentencing is delayed to September, 2005.
8/05 -News breaks about the existence of Able Danger and its ID of 9/11 hijackers in 1999 and attempts to pass this information to law enforcement
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