Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The incipient implosion of Islam ( Christianity is Growing Quickly in Muslim Countries )
WorldnetDaily.com ^ | 01/23/2007 | Jim Rutz

Posted on 01/23/2007 1:36:21 PM PST by SirLinksalot

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last
To: Capt. Tom
Not surprising, since Muslims believe Jesus Christ is a Muslim,, and one of their prophets.

However, they also aren't supposed to believe that Jesus really died on the cross, or was really raised from the dead, and they certainly don't believe that he died as a substitutionary victim to take away the sins of the world.

All of those realities were vividly depicted in Mel Gibson's movie.

41 posted on 01/23/2007 3:09:24 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

I suspect that our armed forces in Iraq are having an impact that goes far beyond fighting the terrorists. It would not surprise me to hear that there Christians in our military spreading the Good News, even if it is in the most subtle ways, and that Iraqis are responding. The thought that there are Christians winning muslims to Christ in Iraq is probably scarier to those mullahs than a boatload of Marines.


42 posted on 01/23/2007 3:12:12 PM PST by yawningotter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #43 Removed by Moderator

To: Rhiannon

--I read this before but would like actual sources to verify the statistics on the number of conversions.--

You don't really question WND, do you?


44 posted on 01/23/2007 3:21:03 PM PST by UpAllNight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: warsaw44
Google "iran tehran underground church" and you will find lots of information.

The situation of islamic countries is similar to that of communist countries in the 70's and 80's. It was forbidden to leave a communist country, and finally communism collapsed, due in large part to the fact that no one truly believed any more. Similarly, it is forbidden to convert from islam. If they have to impose a death penalty to keep people from converting, how vibrant can islam be?

45 posted on 01/23/2007 3:32:53 PM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: warsaw44

"I have never heard of record breaking numbers of Muslims converting to Christianity in recent years. Not once."

Generally it is kept quiet for political and security reasons. If you take the time to get to know some missionaries (I have friends and relatives who are on-the-ground missionaries), you will find that their experiences match the numbers being talked about in this article.

Some of the numbers for starting quantities of Christians are off, but otherwise the article seems solid to me.


46 posted on 01/23/2007 3:43:41 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: T Ruth

"If they have to impose a death penalty to keep people from converting, how vibrant can islam be?"

Nice summarization.


47 posted on 01/23/2007 3:50:20 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Its a postal district, not a town...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Let's hear it from the camel's mouth:

translation: "Islam used to be, as we stated before, Africa's primary religion...there was around 30 countries that write in arabic , currently the muslim population in Africa dropped to 316 million. Half of that number is of the North African Maghrib arab countries who are muslims anyway. So Africa that we are talking about, the non arabic, now has a muslim population of only 150 million , and if we knew that africa's population is around 1 billion people, then this is for sure a far less ratio/percentage than what it used to be in the beginings of the 20's century....as opposed to this ; The catholic population has risen from around a million of people in 1902 To 329882000 now, lets make it nearer and say 330 million .

As for how this happened, Africa has now a million and half a million churches. The number of the members of these churches 46 million people. Because of the christian missionaries every hour islam loses 667 muslims convert to Christianity, every Day 16000 , every year 6 MILLION."

http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/islamgrows.html

48 posted on 01/23/2007 4:13:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Sounds like good figures to me.

I have always wondered... regardless of my perceptions of Islam... I always asked that with Islam acting the way it has in over (at least) the past 10 years, what part of it was attractive... something you would want to believe in?

I mean... on one hand you have a religion based on forgiveness and selflessness, on treating people the way you want to be treated. On the other you have a religion which is being used to say your duty is to kill people in the name of god because non-believers must die.

Just from a simple human perspective, I can't see why people would be eager to put in with that crowd
49 posted on 01/23/2007 4:29:39 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson; Alouette; Salem; Salvation; Soul Seeker; NYer; wagglebee; little jeremiah; river rat; ...

This is very encouraging news.


50 posted on 01/23/2007 5:08:28 PM PST by Clintonfatigued ("Appointing Earl Warren was the biggest damn fool thing I ever did." Dwight D. Eisenhower)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Even if your statistics is true, and even if each copy of the materials equals one convert [wildly optimistic, does anyone remember what happened to that Afghani Abdul Rahman?], you still fail to consider that the cockroaches multiply to a tune of +20-25 MILLION a year.


51 posted on 01/23/2007 5:16:18 PM PST by GSlob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Campion
However, they also aren't supposed to believe that Jesus really died on the cross, or was really raised from the dead, and they certainly don't believe that he died as a substitutionary victim to take away the sins of the world.

All of those realities were vividly depicted in Mel Gibson's movie.

The Muslims don't buy the crucifiction aspect, because the Koran tells them something else. So those scenes would be looked by a Muslim at in this context.

Koran : "4.157":
And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

"4.158": Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

52 posted on 01/23/2007 5:29:52 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Jesus is appearing to many muslims in dreams.


53 posted on 01/23/2007 5:40:48 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Now why would a muslim turn to Christianity?

There is one reason and one reason only, it is a reason that Allah does not provide for.

Christianity is about forgiveness. True peace on the middle east cannot be obtained in the current situation. Muslims can't or don't know how to forgive.

Funny, but liberals strike me the same way in the inability to forgive part...?
54 posted on 01/23/2007 5:45:51 PM PST by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clintonfatigued

All praise be to Almighty Jehovah!


55 posted on 01/23/2007 6:05:11 PM PST by skr (Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face. -- Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Oh yeah...in my own circle I have a couple Turks going to my church with me.

There are some here who would never believe that but it's true!

And I know about conversions to the Lord going on all the time...some secret (especially among the Yemenis) but many public.


56 posted on 01/23/2007 7:08:12 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EBH

A sign that that there is hope that the Christian faith will come back to the ME.


57 posted on 01/23/2007 7:47:09 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: yawningotter

Goes to show that God does work in mysterious ways. Not only there are soilders fighting the terrorists, but for those that are Christians winning Muslims for Christ. That is a miracle.


58 posted on 01/23/2007 7:49:22 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

An example of the last statement is to be found in one man, a former Islamofacist now a Christian, Wahid Shobot.


59 posted on 01/23/2007 7:55:32 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Christianity is growing in some places and dying fast in others. What used to be known as Christendom is now rabidly anti-Christian, and the left in the US wants to make our nation that way, too. One of the major efforts of our age should be to re-Christianize Europe. If Irish monks can convert Viking pagans in a few generations, surely some well-meaning Americans can revive the Holy Spirit in modern pagans.


60 posted on 01/23/2007 8:48:21 PM PST by Defiant (Hillary 2008: Because America needs a nude erection.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson