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McCain does about-face on grassroots reform bill
The Hill ^ | January 18, 2007 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 01/18/2007 7:47:15 AM PST by neverdem

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To: TommyDale
McCain wanted to stifle the Christian Right, but now that James Dobson is opposing him, McCain is changing his mind.

Waddya wanna bet McCain will demand that the Christian Right "owes him a favor" afterwards? Politicians don't give this stuff away for free, you know.

61 posted on 01/18/2007 9:42:13 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: airborne

You sure are, LOL!


62 posted on 01/18/2007 9:43:23 AM PST by cake_crumb (When "bipartisan study groups" prosecute wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
"Congress shall make no law restricting speech or the exercise thereof"

Doesn't matter. The Constitution is what some judge says it is...

63 posted on 01/18/2007 9:52:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: AmishDude

McCain is on the record as being hostile to the Christian Right, hence his smart-ass comments about Jerry Falwell after their meeting. He has burned the bridges to the Religious Right, and there is no mending them now.


64 posted on 01/18/2007 9:59:04 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Alex Murphy

I agree. McCain is a legend in his own mind, which is quite unstable even without drugs.


65 posted on 01/18/2007 10:00:11 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: cake_crumb
Who's asking for a "Free Wall?" I'm not a liberal. I have no problems paying for national security. Take the money we will save by not supporting all the illegal aliens and use it to keep them out. Heck... we'll probably save billions. Can you imagine the tax cuts our government will be able to give us if we stop paying for illgal's medical bills? Their food stamps? Housing? Children's (they can't have just one) education. How about all the money we will save not having to keep them in jail?

Let's also not forget about all the able bodied Americans on welfare that will then be able to finally work for what they receive instead of sitting on their lazy butts playing video games, shoplifting and collecting welfare (another money saving venture for us. End their welfare and give us back our money.)

Ship the illegals outta this country. Shoot them if they try to reenter and deal only with those people that respect our laws and sovereignty as a free nation.

TOM TANCREDO for President '08

66 posted on 01/18/2007 10:00:35 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn.)
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To: HoosierHawk
McCain is considered one of the most authoritative voices on ethics- and lobbying-related issues in the Senate.

It is both amazing and terrifying that a statement like this is presented as a fact in a news article. No evidence is presented to back up the statement (considered by whom?) We are to simply read it and accept it. Really, this is just an opinion that is passed of as fact, and the terrifying part is that all they do is make a statement, and people automatically accept it. It's the Big Lie in action.

67 posted on 01/18/2007 10:00:55 AM PST by webheart
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To: neverdem
" McCain is considered one of the most authoritative voices on ethics- and lobbying-related issues in the Senate."

Doesn't say much about their concept of ethics.

68 posted on 01/18/2007 10:01:23 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
" McCain is considered one of the most authoritative voices on ethics- and lobbying-related issues in the Senate."

Not by anyone that knows him.

69 posted on 01/18/2007 10:02:57 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

That comment from the Hill was referring to those who know him in the Senate. I don't see the members of the Senate as being very ethical with regard to the rights of the people, including adhering to the very few laws that forbid infringement.


70 posted on 01/18/2007 10:13:44 AM PST by spunkets
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To: dirtboy
has told conservative activists that he will vote to strip a key provision >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

He was for the provision before he was against it.>>>>>>>>>>

McCain is beginning to see the RNC informal poll results on RINO candidiates. He realizes that he will never win the election , if he gets the nomination, and is now trying to rebuilt bridges he burned last year in his Gang of 14 activities in the Senate. He's like all politicians who fail to act on principle and resort to Machiavellien politics continuously, as the ass catches up with the head. He turns into a Kerry flip flopper.

The sooner McCain is gone the better. He simply needs retirement badly, real badly.

71 posted on 01/18/2007 10:30:07 AM PST by Candor7 (The hope of the West disappears into liberal flatulance, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

This provision affected some bloggers in "all groups". Unions and bloggers in other groups were exempted from it.


72 posted on 01/18/2007 10:32:46 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

McCain-Feingold is also unconstitutional but the Supreme Court gods didn't see it that way.

So we are stuck with legislation that may not be constitutional but it stands until it is ruled unconstitutional BY the Supreme Court. The Legislative Branch is not prohibited from submitted such law, the question is only whether it will stand.


73 posted on 01/18/2007 10:34:31 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: All
...While grassroots groups on both sides of the political spectrum oppose the proposal, social conservative leaders such as Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, who broadcasts a radio program to hundreds of thousands of evangelical Christians, have been its most vehement critics...

What difference does all this make?... He is still a funny... just "posturing" for political convenience... That is what WELL PAID ** CONSULTANTES ** Suppose to do!... Transforming him into an "Altar-Boy."

The questions is... Are we so stupid as to buy it? :)

74 posted on 01/18/2007 10:47:33 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends - basically :) - despite our differences)
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To: AmishDude

I suggest you look back on the Republican Primary debates from 2000.

On January 7, 2000, in a debate in South Carolina, candidates were asked to name their biggest mistake made as an adult and what they learned from it.

Orrin Hatch said he had made so many he couldn't name one.

Gary Bauer refused to discuss any personal mistakes.

Steve Forbes referred to editorials he had written calling for positions such as raising gas taxes.

Alan Keyes said that was between him and his priest.

George W. Bush said it was trading Sammy Sosa to the Cubs

John McCain said it was his involvement in the Keating 5 scandal, and said it "will always be a mark on my record and something that people will judge me for the rest of my life."

It's rather interesting the number of candidates, including Bush, who weaseled their way around that question.


75 posted on 01/18/2007 10:57:40 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: All

Okay...so McCainiac says the common people can't be trusted so we must be monitored religiously while Congress can do whatever the hell it wants without censure.

McCainiac says us Christians are scary people that are too close to the GOP.

Then the loser decides to run for President again, Dobson smacks him hard alongside the had announcing he'll never vote for him and his attempts to silence our free speech is part of the reason and suddenly he backtracks on his many years track record.

I hope all the people that have bashed Dobson and Christians (the Armey's of the world and certain people selfishly only concerned with their wants and needs mostly on the fiscal side) are taking note the ONLY reason McCain has reversed his stance (temporarily as it'll flip eventually) is because DOBSON spoke out against him and he wants the Christian Right's vote. Take note of who your real enemies are.

As to McCainiac, only one thing drives me right now since I do NOT Trust Republicans anymore then Dems right now. And that is taking down McCain in '08. Payback is coming for what he spent the last years doing that led to '06.


76 posted on 01/18/2007 11:23:30 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: weegee

MF is not unconstitutional. Congress is explicitly empowered to regulate federal elections. It is also one of the most ineffectual and easiest to get around laws I have ever seen. BAD law and unconstitutional law are not the same thing.


77 posted on 01/18/2007 11:28:57 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TommyDale

Right.

Nothing he can do to make me support him. He had his chance when we needed him.

Too late now.


78 posted on 01/18/2007 11:30:07 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: weegee

I have seen nothing exempting Unions from the provisions under discussion.


79 posted on 01/18/2007 11:30:23 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ClancyJ

You should like this news:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1769682/posts


80 posted on 01/18/2007 11:31:51 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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