Is it safe?
Posted on 01/15/2007 3:17:46 PM PST by mdittmar
Moshe Aryeh Friedman, a member of the Natorei Karta, who attended the Holocaust denial conference in Teheran last month, was asked to leave a hotel in Brooklyn over the weekend, where he was staying with his wife and four children. It was the latest in a string of protests against the anti-Zionist sect.
Friedman entered the Park House hotel in Borough Park on Wednesday using his wife's maiden name, hotel managers said. On Friday, Friedman was recognized by people in the neighborhood. By Friday afternoon, a small group of people had gathered outside the hotel on 43rd St. to protest his presence.
When word reached hotel employees that Friedman was staying at the hotel, a manager called the New York Police Department to have him removed. But the police said they could not legally remove him, reported hotel manager Israel Tyberg.
"We told him to get out," Tyberg said. "We are Orthodox Jews and didn't want such a person in our hotel."
Some hotel guests left upon hearing that Friedman was staying there; others didn't come, said Tyberg. Employees posted a sign on the door saying the hotel was "not responsible for any guest staying at the Park House."
News spread throughout the community that Friedman was staying at the hotel, and several hundred demonstrators protested outside the hotel Saturday night, calling for his removal.
"I think that anybody who had gone through the Holocaust wouldn't want this person to stay on their property," Tyberg said. "It's about an ideology of what's right and what's wrong, and this was wrong. Nothing to do with Zionism, purely wrong."
Rumors were reported on Ynet Monday that Friedman's wife left him and fled Austria where they live to her family in Brooklyn. According to Ynet, Friedman's wife approached rabbis in Brooklyn to help her divorce her husband. But according to hotel staff, Friedman was at the hotel with his wife and children.
Friedman was removed with a police escort Saturday night when his reservation ended.
A group of protesters from the right-wing Zionist Defense Organization were allowed into the hotel late Saturday night to confirm that Friedman and his family had left.
Community members were incensed to hear that Friedman was in their neighborhood, said Zev Brenner, president and executive producer of Talkline Communications Network, a Jewish radio and television source.
"There is something wrong here that must be addressed, and the ultra-Orthodox need to deal with this," Brenner said. "The Natorei Karta find shelter and sustenance within the Orthodox community, and the community has been slow to recognize what they represent."
Denying the Holocaust in NYC is probably right up there on the stupid scale with standing on a street corner in Teheran and saying the Ayatolla eats pork chops every Wedneday night at the weekly "great Satan appreciation night dinner"
I recently have been thinking about the Erev Rav and their descendants a lot (the calf worshippers --- possible plants by pharoah, maybe not).
The NK seem to me to be really good evidence of their continued existence.
Or standing in the middle of a street in Watts on a Saturday night in August covered in a sheet extolling the virtues of white supremism.
Help her divorce him by all means.
I don't know why. The Natorei Karta have been protesting Israel and Zionism for years.
I'm from German decent.
What is Erev Rav.
Or saying you are a republican on the streets of Madison, WI
No shirt,no service.
Good on the protestors. What a coward he is--using his wife's name.
"What is Erev Rav."
Depends on who you ask.
After the Jews received the Torah, Moses went up Mt. Sinai for 40 days. After – according to an erroneous calculation – the 40 days had passed, many of the Jews believed that Moses had died and they needed a new leader. The Erev Rav (most consider them a group of Egyptian pseudo converts who maintained their idolatrous beliefs) made the Golden Calf. Many Jews sided with the Erev Rav. The members of the tribe of Levi did not.
According to the Ohr HaChaim, they were spies sent along by Paroah to sow seeds of dissension among the ranks of Jews. They were the rabble-rousers, and, though, they may not have been successful at making the Jewish people return to Egypt (which, they came close to doing), they were the cause of Moshe's failure to enter Eretz Yisroel, and the delaying of the Final Redemption.
Regardless of origin, they have always represented one of the biggest stumbling blocks in the path of the Jewish nation, and I believe their descendants --- literal and actual --- are among us today.
But, hey, I'm a cohen, so I can judge. :)
(Not really, we all have erev rav in us. Me moreso than most.)
Constitutional rights only apply to government action.
This is a private hotel.
They can discriminate as they please --- as long as it is not race, religion, sex, disability, or national origin.
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I am recently convinced that the erev rav spirit is responsible for suicidal Israelis like Olmert.
To me, it's not rational, and spiritual blindness is the only explanation.
(But maybe I'm the one who's crazy for thinking that! My wife thinks I should hush and not tell anyone.)
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