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No Spanking Bill (New Proposed California Law)
FOX 40 KTXL ^ | 11 Jan 07 | KTXL

Posted on 01/14/2007 6:13:46 AM PST by gobucks

SACRAMENTO — A new bill wants to outlaw parents from spanking their children. The assemblywoman sponsoring the measure wants to protect those who can't defend themselves, but is it taking governing too far?

Spanking is a touchy issue for many people. Some use it. Others don't. An assemblywoman wants to ban all forms, even a slap on the hand.

Speaker Pro Temp Sally Lieber plans to introduce a bill that would ban any form of spanking on kids less than three years old. That's includes spanking hands, faces or bottoms. Lieber said, "That would include slapping spanking smacking hitting punching, any striking of a child."

Lieber said, "The borders begin to blur and there ought to be a bright line in the law that says no hitting a child 3 years or under."

We found parents on both sides of the spanking issue, but many, whether they agreed with spanking or not, felt the government shouldn't tell parents how to parent.

Karen Fontaine is both a parent and grandparent. She said, "What else are they going to do next, are they going to take over and raise our children?"

Kary Mansu is also a parent, "I think it's a moral issue, how do you put a moral issue into no law and law, how do you control it?"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: callegislation; monkeyrights; monkeysrelieved; nannystate; parentalrights; parentsrights; spanking; thoughtcrime
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The countries that currently have entirely outlawed spankning, From Wipikeida. Funny, none of the English speaking countries have outlawed it ....yet.

1 posted on 01/14/2007 6:13:48 AM PST by gobucks
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To: gobucks

Well, this woman deserves a good beating.


2 posted on 01/14/2007 6:15:47 AM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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To: gobucks
Karen Fontaine is both a parent and grandparent. She said, "What else are they going to do next, are they going to take over and raise our children?"

In a word: YES.

3 posted on 01/14/2007 6:18:00 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: gobucks
law that says no hitting a child 3 years or under

Okay, sounds like a great idea. But it needs some lawyereeze to solidify: She means a child between the ages of 0 and 3 years old. Younger than 0, and the usual spanking, maiming and killing are still okay.

4 posted on 01/14/2007 6:19:02 AM PST by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: ShadowDancer

To people like Sally Lieber, freedom is a dated concept. Oh, I read her BIO. One "politically astute" cat, no kids.


5 posted on 01/14/2007 6:19:41 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: ShadowDancer; Letaka; justche; Cagey; Millee; Chanticleer; wallcrawlr; Darkwolf377

"That would include slapping spanking smacking hitting punching, any striking of a child."

also..disciplining or training in any form, or crossing the will of the little darlings.


6 posted on 01/14/2007 6:20:09 AM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: gobucks

Does that mean the kids will have something to look forward to on their third birthday?


7 posted on 01/14/2007 6:20:37 AM PST by RLM
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To: gobucks
No Spanking Bill

Deeply saddened....

8 posted on 01/14/2007 6:21:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (Me a skeptic? I trust you have proof.)
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To: Gabz
"We'll raise your children, thank you."

9 posted on 01/14/2007 6:21:10 AM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: gobucks

Miss Fontaine has it. They intend to enforce the next step of the communists/nazi doctrine...its called cradle to grave.
All the women who pushed for fem' ideals will now become brood mares for the state. The state will determine who and which stud you can be matched with.

Thats how the true nazi/communist system works.


10 posted on 01/14/2007 6:22:08 AM PST by crz
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..her husband takes her everywhere he goes, because he hates the thought of coming home to this every night

11 posted on 01/14/2007 6:23:28 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Vision

Thanks, but no thanks, I'm quite capable of doing it myself.


12 posted on 01/14/2007 6:24:03 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: gobucks
"measure wants to protect those who can't defend themselves"

Does that include the UNBORN children who are abused by abortions?
13 posted on 01/14/2007 6:26:13 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: gobucks

I don't spank. I don't even throw things. At my age, the wits are deadly and sufficient. But to outlaw the practice? That's wrong. Some kids need a good buffing on a regular basis, to maintain a high luster. Others, just the credible threat of same is effective deterrence.
This is just another clip at the natural bonds between parents and children.


14 posted on 01/14/2007 6:28:08 AM PST by Graymatter
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"are they going to take over and raise our children?"

What do you think the public school system is? Excuse me...the public "indoctrination centers."


15 posted on 01/14/2007 6:28:21 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Gabz

You forgot to mention that they also intend to put everyone of our kids on drugs as well.


16 posted on 01/14/2007 6:30:11 AM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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Fret not. We'll let the schools raise the children then when little Johnny is out of control, the parents can sue the school.


17 posted on 01/14/2007 6:32:48 AM PST by CTSeditor
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To: Gabz

It takes a village.


18 posted on 01/14/2007 6:41:12 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: gobucks

Spanking each other in Hollywood is still legal...


19 posted on 01/14/2007 6:44:02 AM PST by Doctor Raoul ("BOAT PEOPLE" - The result of the last time the Democrats stabbed our allies in the back.)
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To: Graybeard58
It takes a village.

In this case, it takes a village idiot.

20 posted on 01/14/2007 6:45:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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