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Good read, long but good.
1 posted on 01/11/2007 7:55:36 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

already posted a few minutes ago, but I could read this again and again lol


2 posted on 01/11/2007 7:57:44 AM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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"The foundation of American policy, furthermore, is the conceit that moderates represent the Islamic mainstream, that they reflect the authentic image of a Muhammad — the “highest example of human behavior” — who championed the values of democracy and equality. “But,” as Spencer cautions, “if the jihad terrorists are correct in invoking his example to justify their deeds, then Islamic reformers will need to initiate a respectful but searching re-evaluation of the place Muhammad occupies within Islam — a vastly more difficult undertaking.”
5 posted on 01/11/2007 8:14:46 AM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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I was particularly impressed by this Koranic assertion:

'Though fifteen years his senior, Khadija proposed marriage, becoming the first of Muhammad’s many wives (biographers peg the number at between eleven and thirteen, with Muhammad having claimed to be “given the power of sexual intercourse equal to forty men”)'
6 posted on 01/11/2007 8:22:50 AM PST by US admirer
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I totally agree with Spencer and avidly read his website (if my lefty acquaintances only knew, I would get one hell of a finger wagging). The left always is ready to bring up periods of intolerance in the history of Christianity, but the fact is --Islam is theocratic in it's essence whereas Christianity is not. The only Muslims who are open to democracy (as we in the West define democracy) are thoroughly Westernized. In a sense their Islam has been watered down in order to accomodate a Western outlook. Christianity didn't have to fundamentally change it's theology to accomodate the Enlightenment--Islam will have to fundamentally change it's theology in order to accomodate democracy of whatever stripe.


7 posted on 01/11/2007 8:24:08 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: IrishMike

I've read several of Robert Spencer's books.
He has perhaps the best grasp of the problem that exists today.
Consider whatever Spencer says as gospel.

Good write too.


10 posted on 01/11/2007 8:31:21 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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As long as the bulk of the adherents of Islam allow, aid and abet the so-called "Heretics" they are all suspect.
11 posted on 01/11/2007 8:33:24 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: IrishMike
If Muslims had evolved, they would be Christians.

14 posted on 01/11/2007 8:36:56 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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The problem is not Islamic terrorists, who are seen as heroes in the Muslim world, it is the essentially intolerant nature of Islam itself, which is not so much a relgion, as a political despotism with religious trappings.


19 posted on 01/11/2007 1:39:00 PM PST by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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