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Gov. Schwarzenegger Announcing Health Care Reform Plans 12 noon PST (live websast)
Office of the Governor (California) ^ | 1/9/2--7 | self

Posted on 01/08/2007 12:16:11 PM PST by Nachum

This Monday at 1:30pm, members of the Governor's Administration will host a live video web discussion with stakeholders and members of the public.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arnoldonhealthcare; calhealthcare; care; health; reform; schwarzenegger; universalhealthcare
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FReeper may submit questions via the web to the Governor through the site link.
1 posted on 01/08/2007 12:16:15 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp

Hide your wallets, folks.


2 posted on 01/08/2007 12:21:17 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Nachum

Q: Governor, would you characterize California's health care crisis as being as tough as the robot killer in "Terminator 2," or as the robot killer in "Terminator 3"?


3 posted on 01/08/2007 12:21:34 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Nachum

building a bigger ontrenched socialistic bureaucracy, one more bill at a time. How progressive of him.

While the initial monies talked about don't seem to be huge per se, the long term implication is nothing more than a confirmation of how far astray this and previous adminstrations have gone astray.

We are become.. Eurofornia. ugh.


4 posted on 01/08/2007 12:36:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Three part plan to fix the "broken" health care system:

Prevention: (taxed to pay for the healthy- Tax fatsos and lard-*sses Tax smokers
Mandatory coverage for all: (socialize medicine)
wage and price controls on doctors and hospitals

All children will have access to medical care
Subsidies (free money!) Counties will have "responsibility" for undocumented immigrants (the state won't pay a dime for illegals it's your problem

Oh lawdy.... We're screwed

5 posted on 01/08/2007 12:36:42 PM PST by Nachum
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To: My2Cents

The one in Terminator 3 was definitely hotter.


6 posted on 01/08/2007 12:38:14 PM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Egad! Are you listening to this? Outlefting the leftists, once again!


7 posted on 01/08/2007 12:39:50 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
Aha! Now he is proposing that any employer who has more than 10 employees or more and don't provide health insurance will be taxed 4% to subsidize his plans.

Can you imagine what this will do to business in this state?

8 posted on 01/08/2007 12:40:08 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

perhaps a splinter in the Trojan Horse's leg break has gone to his brain.

unintended consequences , I'm sure..


9 posted on 01/08/2007 12:41:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hidden tax, shared responsibility, healthcare for all...


10 posted on 01/08/2007 12:45:10 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Mandatory coverage for all: (socialize medicine) wage and price controls on doctors and hospitals

This is what will kill it as surely as Hillary's plan was killed. People are happy to tell pollsters how worried they are about "other people" having healthcare, but when you tell them you are going to shake up their OWN coverage, well that's a different story.

Even if he can peel off the necessary 10 Republicans for this monstrosity, it will certainly face a referendum.

11 posted on 01/08/2007 12:58:12 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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01/08/2007   GAAS:009:07   FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE   

Gov. Schwarzenegger Tackles California's Broken Health Care System, Proposes Comprehensive Plan to Help All Californians

With 6.5 million Californians uninsured for all or part of the year - more than any other state in the nation - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today shared his comprehensive plans to reform California's broken health care system by addressing the hidden costs that result in billions of dollars in higher premiums and taxes.

In a speech before hundreds of stakeholders, Gov. Schwarzenegger articulated why the broken system is in desperate need of repair. 

"More than 60 emergency rooms have closed over the past decade because they didn't want to keep treating people without insurance. Unpaid medical bills mean billions of dollars in hidden taxes for the rest of us because those services all have to be paid for. So we pay higher deductibles, costs for treatment, premiums and co-pays," said Gov. Schwarzenegger "Companies stop offering coverage, which leads to more people without insurance and the whole cycle keeps repeating. Nearly three million people in California whose jobs do provide coverage turn it down because they think they're healthy and don't need it, or they don't want to pay their share of ever-higher premiums. We have to aim high and attack the entire system from top to bottom. We can create a model the rest of the nation can follow."

Gov. Schwarzenegger also talked about the drain on the state's economy caused by health care premiums growing more than twice as fast as prices overall or workers' earnings, as reported in a recent study by the Health Research and Educational Trust and the Kaiser Family Foundation.

A recent New America Foundation white paper estimates the average family pays about $1,186 a year in "hidden taxes" through health insurance premiums to cover the uninsured.  According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, chronic illnesses - such as cardiovascular disease, cancer and diabetes - are responsible for $445 billion in direct medical costs and $409 billion in lost productivity nationally.

The Governor's health care reform proposal will reduce the hidden tax, lower costs, support better care and create a healthier California through three essential elements of reform:

  • Prevention, health promotion, and wellness
  • Coverage for all Californians
  • Affordability and cost containment

"The Governor's plan recognizes that health coverage for all Californians will benefit all Californians," said California Health and Human Services Secretary Kim Belshé. "Just as all sectors of society share in the benefits of coverage for all Californians, we have to share responsibility across the board.  Fixing our broken health care system requires changes from all of us - individuals, government, doctors and hospitals, insurers and employers."

All of the details of the Governor's plan are found at www.gov.ca.gov.  The Governor's proposal is built on "shared responsibility, shared benefit" where every segment of the healthcare system realizes a benefit and has some responsibility.  Highlights include:

Securing health coverage: All Californians will be required to have health insurance coverage.  Coverage must be substantial enough to protect families against catastrophic costs as well as minimize the "cost shift" that occurs when large numbers of persons are receiving care without paying the full cost of that care. By ensuring all Californians are insured, this proposal will stop burdening those with health coverage from paying the bills of those without insurance. 

Guaranteeing coverage: Insurers will be required to guarantee coverage so that all individuals have access to affordable products. Californians will no longer live in fear of losing their health coverage. 

Encouraging personal responsibility for health and wellness: Implement "Healthy Action Incentives/Rewards" programs in both the public and private sectors to encourage the adoption of healthy behaviors.  Californians, who take personal responsibility to increase healthy practices and behaviors, thereby reducing their risk of chronic medical conditions and the incidence of infectious diseases, will benefit from participation in this groundbreaking program.

Providing low-income individuals affordable coverage:  Very low-income Californians will be provided expanded access to public programs, such as Medi-Cal, and lower-income working residents will be provided financial assistance to help with the cost of coverage through a new state-administered purchasing pool.

Increasing Medi-Cal rates significantly: To reduce the "hidden tax" associated with low Medi-Cal reimbursement and to encourage greater provider participation in the Medi-Cal program, increase Medi-Cal rates for providers, hospitals and health plans.

Improving insurer and hospital efficiency: Require health plans (HMO's), insurers and hospitals to spend 85% of every premium dollar on patient care.

Enhancing Tax Breaks for Individuals and Employers for the Purchase of Insurance: Align state tax laws with federal laws by allowing persons to make pre-tax contributions to individual health care insurance Health Savings Accounts.  In addition, require employers to establish "Section 125" plans so that employees can make tax-sheltered contributions to health insurance and save employers additional FICA contributions.

Contributing to the cost of coverage:  Increased Medi-Cal rates and eliminating the uninsured will direct $10-$15 billion in new money to hospitals and doctors.  Therefore, a coverage dividend of 2% on doctors and 4% on hospitals will be assessed to help cover the increased Medi-Cal rates.  Employers of 10 or more (small businesses, which make up 80% of California business, are exempt) who do not provide coverage will pay an "in-lieu fee" of 4% of payroll.  Without this fee, the system will see "crowd-out," a system creating an incentive for employers to drop coverage. 

"My proposal is a beginning. I look forward to a vigorous and open debate. Everything will be on the table and I want to hear from everyone. If we have the will - and I believe that we do - we can heal our broken system," said Gov. Schwarzenegger.

 


12 posted on 01/08/2007 1:00:54 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
All Californians will be required to have health insurance coverage.

I'd love to see how this will be enforced. Papers please?

13 posted on 01/08/2007 1:04:30 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"The Governor's plan recognizes that health coverage for all Californians will benefit all Californians," said California Health and Human Services Secretary Kim Belshé. "Just as all sectors of society share in the benefits of coverage for all Californians, we have to share responsibility across the board. Fixing our broken health care system requires changes from all of us - individuals, government, doctors and hospitals, insurers and employers."

Oh, goody! Communitarians of California! Shared responsibility, mandated by law. Including subsidizing illegal immigrants.

Hillary would be proud.

14 posted on 01/08/2007 1:04:38 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I read in one proposal that they wanted to add proof-of-coverage to tax filings.


15 posted on 01/08/2007 1:07:07 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ElkGroveDan

The guy from the New America Foundation (leftist group) just made the comment that this plan one-ups and goes further than the Massachussets plan.

That's our gubbie!


16 posted on 01/08/2007 1:12:00 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
I look forward to a vigorous and open debate.

That's one wish he's going to get. I wish I could be near a computer to get John & Ken on KFI tonight. Healthcare for illegals. That's going to set those two on end.

17 posted on 01/08/2007 1:17:20 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Nachum
"Businessmen are the one group that distinguishes capitalism and the American way of life from the totalitarian statism that is swallowing the rest of the world.
All the other social groups- workers, farmers, professional men, scientists, soldiers- exist under dictatorships, even though they exist in chains, in terror, in misery, and in progressive self-destruction.
But there is no such group as businessmen under a dictatorship.
Their place is taken by armed thugs: by bureaucrats and commissars.
Businessmen are the symbol of a free society-
the symbol of America."
Source: Capitalism – The Unknown Ideal Chapter 3

AYN RAND
18 posted on 01/08/2007 1:24:41 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie
Well, on the other side of the ledger... Laird, the Commie from Santa Cruz that co-authored the Sierra-Nevada CONservancy bill for Arnold's eager signature is biching that Arnold is "balancing the budget on the backs of the poor" because he's trying to pull parents off welfare to get them to go to work!

The Sacramento BEE's headline in my newswrack says "ARNOLD HITS KIDS!" (Or something like that. I'll see if I can find the link)

I'm tellin ya... He's still gonna stumble around making everyone pist in less than 25 months!!!

19 posted on 01/08/2007 5:19:16 PM PST by SierraWasp (There is no one else in the hollow "center" with Arnold, except, of course... ARNOLD!!!)
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"Californians will no longer live in fear of losing their health coverage."

Even if they refuse to pay for it??? Heck, you can write laws and sign them, Goofinator, commanding the sun to set in the east, too!!!

Yeah, tell John & Ken that as ACTUAL REPUBLICAN State Senator Dave Cox said: "There's no reason to make CA Mexico's HMO!!!" (or words to that effect)

20 posted on 01/08/2007 5:26:45 PM PST by SierraWasp (There is no one else in the hollow "center" with Arnold, except, of course... ARNOLD!!!)
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