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Watch "Immigration Gumballs" on Google Video (must see)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069&pr=goog-sl ^

Posted on 12/31/2006 4:31:53 PM PST by Sharks

Wild Earth and other Environmental Groups 16 min 54 sec - Jun 11, 2006

This is a MUST SEE video for anyone interested in the immigration debate, whether you are a citizen, an illegal alien or a Congressman. ... all » This clip from the longer video, Immigration by the Numbers, features Roy Beck demonstrating the catastrophe of the huge numbers of both legal and illegal immigration by Third World people into the modern nations. He uses standard statistics and simple gumballs to show this disaster in the making


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; gumballs; mexico
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1 posted on 12/31/2006 4:31:55 PM PST by Sharks
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To: Prov3456

Watch this later.


2 posted on 12/31/2006 4:45:02 PM PST by Prov3456
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To: Sharks

Bump for later viewing.


3 posted on 12/31/2006 4:46:29 PM PST by houeto (Would islam exist without the kaaba? -a serious inquiry)
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To: Sharks
Do not watch this video if you can't stand crude, sophomoric humor.
4 posted on 12/31/2006 4:52:09 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles

They scattered real fast.


5 posted on 12/31/2006 4:57:25 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Southaven Mississippi Freeper)
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To: Sharks

brilliant!

Thank you.


6 posted on 12/31/2006 4:58:54 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Sharks

Bump for later!


7 posted on 12/31/2006 5:02:12 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: Sharks

Thought provoking.

Certainly we do not need Nostradamus or the Book of Revelations to predict the future. We should be able to calculate probability based on demographics, natural resources, ebb & flow of cultures, pandemics, climate changes, religious movements, political trends, technology, etc.,

Is this a field of science?


8 posted on 12/31/2006 5:07:30 PM PST by sodpoodle (I'm retired - what are you doing here on Company time?)
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To: Sharks
"must see"

Seen.


9 posted on 12/31/2006 5:11:21 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Sharks

Very informing and every single American politician should be made to watch this!


10 posted on 12/31/2006 5:12:42 PM PST by Arpege92 (If you don't stand behind our troops...please feel free to stand in front of them!)
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To: Sharks

Interesting stats - thanks for sharing. Certainly makes the situation clear doesn't it.


11 posted on 12/31/2006 5:16:56 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: GOPPachyderm

You welcome


12 posted on 12/31/2006 5:26:44 PM PST by Sharks
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To: concentric circles

I saw that guy before, he`s completely insane, he must have a death wish or something. You ever see the video where he dresses as a KKK guy and goes into a black neighborhood?


13 posted on 12/31/2006 5:33:35 PM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: Screamname

Nope... link?


14 posted on 12/31/2006 5:35:57 PM PST by republican4ever (Israel's fate determines the fate of the world, whether we believe and like it or not.)
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To: Screamname

I saw that guy before, he`s completely insane, he must have a death wish or something. You ever see the video where he dresses as a KKK guy and goes into a black neighborhood?

No, was that before or after the sex-change operation?


15 posted on 12/31/2006 5:38:23 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: concentric circles

If a few people do this across the country, the illegal immigration problem will solve itself in a week.


16 posted on 12/31/2006 6:21:33 PM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: Sharks

Bump

Since we are already at 300 million population, and he is not talking about ILLEGAL immigration how OLD is this film?


17 posted on 12/31/2006 6:31:08 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: Sybeck1; concentric circles; Screamname
The joke is on the viewer because "[i]t's all a so-called joke, staged for the sake of comedy. And the Mexican workers were paid to appear in the clip."

Source: http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=1258
18 posted on 12/31/2006 6:34:15 PM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: indcons

CBS News

To environmentalists worried about population growth, people are people.

Even if they do their best to live lightly on the land, their rising numbers are a growing burden on Earth's resources. And whether they sing the "The Star Spangled Banner" in English or in Spanish really doesn't matter.

As politicians and the public heatedly debate immigration, so, too, are environmental activists.

The flow of people into the United States is troubling some environmentalists for two reasons. First, more Americans means more people living in one of the world's most resource-consuming cultures. Second, there's new evidence that Hispanic women who move to the US have more children than if they stayed put.

"We've got to talk about these issues, population, birth rates, immigration," says Paul Watson, founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, which confronts whalers, seal hunters, and those who poach wildlife in the Galapagos Islands. "Immigration is one of the leading contributors to population growth. All we're saying is, those numbers should be reduced to achieve population stabilization."

Mr. Watson also was a Sierra Club board member. Last month, he resigned in protest just before his three-year term ended because he thinks the organization ignores immigration as a major factor in population growth.

Beneath the dispute is a political subtext. Environmentalists generally see themselves as political progressives; they don't want to be bedfellows with anti-immigrant activists sometimes labeled as xenophobic or racist. Very few greens raise a supportive fist when they see "Stop the Invasion" billboards sprouting from California to Florida. For the most part, they skirt the issue.

"The leadership and the membership have said we want to be neutral on this," says Eric Antebi, national press secretary for the Sierra Club in San Francisco, one of the largest and oldest grassroots environmental groups in the country. It's a global issue, says Mr. Antebi, caused by environmental degradation and poverty that need to be solved so people won't have to look elsewhere for a better life. Other large environmental groups take the same position.

Yet the U.S. population is far from stabilized, and immigrants (legal and illegal) are one of the main reasons. There are about 11 million illegal immigrants in the US today, 57 percent from Mexico, and another 24 percent from other Latin American countries, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. Of the US foreign-born population, nearly 30 percent is illegal, according to Pew.

The U.S. Census Bureau this week reported that Hispanics, the largest minority at 42.7 million, are the nation's fastest-growing group. They are 14.3 percent of the overall population, but between July 2004 and July 2005, they accounted for 49 percent of US population growth. Of the increase of 1.3 million Hispanics, the Census Bureau reported, 800,000 was because of natural increase (births minus deaths), and 500,000 was due to immigration.

"The Hispanic population in 2005 was much younger, with a median age of 27.2 years compared to the population as a whole at 36.2 years. About a third of the Hispanic population was under 18, compared with one-fourth of the total population," according to the Census Bureau report. That means such younger people are just entering (or will remain longer in) the years in which they have children of their own.

Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, finds that once women emigrate to the US, most tend to have more children than they would have in their home countries. "Among Mexican immigrants in the United States fertility averages 3.5 children per woman compared to 2.4 children per woman in Mexico," he wrote in a study last October. And the same is true among Chinese immigrants. Fertility is 2.3 in the US compared with 1.7 in China. However, typically these high fertility rates decline in the successive generations as immigrants assimilate into America.

"New immigrants (legal and illegal) plus births to immigrants add some 2.3 million people to the United States each year," Camarota writes, "accounting for most of the nation's population increase."

Over the past 60 to 70 years, U.S. population doubled to nearly 300 million. If current birth and immigration rates were to remain unchanged for another 60 to 70 years, US population again would double to some 600 million people — the equivalent of adding another state the size of California every decade.

"You just can't deal with that issue without dealing with immigration," says Bill Elder of Issaquah, Wash., a former Sierra Club activist now organizing prominent conservation leaders to focus on population.

Though China and India have much larger populations, the U.S. has the highest population growth rate of all developed countries. Also, experts say, Americans on average have greater environmental impact. The equation for this is I = PAT (Impact = Population x Affluence x Technology), with such impact being the main thing determining whether an area's "carrying capacity" has been exceeded.

Harvard University ecologist Edward Wilson figures that the "ecological footprint" — which he defined in a Scientific American article in 2002 as "the average amount of productive land and shallow sea appropriated by each person in bits and pieces from around the world for food, water, housing, energy, transportation, commerce, and waste absorption" — is about 5 acres per person worldwide. In the US, each individual's ecological footprint is about 24 acres, according to Dr. Wilson.

"Our responsibility for pollution and resource use is all out of proportion to our numbers," says Alan Kuper, a retired physicist in Cleveland and founder of Comprehensive US Sustainable Population.

The group publishes a "Congressional Environmental Scorecard" on lawmakers' votes about conservation, consumption, and population, including immigration. "It's not a matter of where or how people come, it's the growth that we have to be concerned with," says Dr. Kuper. "If you're going to be an environmentalist, you have to be concerned about the numbers as well as the usual issues, public lands, energy, pollution, and so forth, because the numbers will just wipe you out."


19 posted on 12/31/2006 6:42:03 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Sharks

Bump.


20 posted on 12/31/2006 6:47:46 PM PST by olrtex
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