Murder Rate In New York Up 10 Percent

WCBSTV.COM ^ | 27 DECEMBER 2006 | AP

[nopardons]

All guns are NOT illegal in N.Y.C. and Rudy went after the illegal ones ( the ones with the serial numbers filed off ), owned and used by thugs; not the ones legally owned, by just regular people.

[ckilmer]

The press secretary for the California Republican Party is the son of illegal aliens who came the USA 35 years ago. In this article he chronicles how in recent years there has been a massive change in the number and kind of illegals coming north. Including a crimnal element that is causing a deterioration in the quality of life of Americans. Consider this article Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan

People have been referring to the Captains Quarters as a rebuke to the assertions of the article. The Captain's Quarters makes the assertion that -- for the numbers to be true -- it would have to be the case that a small number of people were committing a lot of crimes. That is to say far outside the statistical norm for the USA. The problem is that he didn't actually check the federal stats. As it happens it is the case that illegals tend to be very repeat offenders.

Below are some government stats to back up the article's assertioms

From the FBI crime statistics * An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure. * Murder comprised 1.2 percent of the overall estimated number of violent crimes in 2005. (Based on Table 1.) * There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

Illegal Alien Crime Wave

On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.

CRIMINAL HISTORY

More than two-thirds of the defendants charged with an immigration offense were identified as having been previously arrested. Thirty-six percent had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions; 22%, 2 to 4 times; and 12%,1 time. Sixty-one percent of those defendants had been convicted at least once; 18%, 5 or more times; 26%, 2 to 4 times; and 17%, 1 time. Of those charged, 49% had previously been convicted of a felony: 20% of a drug offense; 18%, a violent offense; and 11%, other felony offenses. Twelve percent had previously been convicted of a misdemeanor. Defendants charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. Nine in ten had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, half had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions. Fifty-six percent of those charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted of a violent or drug-related felony. By contrast, under half of those charged with alien smuggling, a third of those charged with unlawful entry, and just over a quarter those charged with misuse of visas and other charges had previously been arrested. The criminal histories of these defendants were generally less extensive: more than 70% had been previously arrested fewer than 5 times. Sources: US Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, National Security Institute, National Association of Chiefs of Police, US Department of Justice

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Are we sure these aren't suicides? Between Chucky and The Beast, if I were a NY Conservative, I'd be putting a bullet in my head, too!

[OldFriend]

Blooming-idiot doing what dems to. Raise taxes, excuse crime, etc.

Heard him on the radio one morning saying he would arrest turnstyle jumpers because they're just poor and have no money.

[nopardons]

Not in N.Y.C.! The Bloods, Crips, and the Latin Kings are the
gangs of record there.

[nopardons]

Bloomy IS a damned DEM! He is the epitome of the term RINO, which is so abused and misused and NOT understood by many here.

[MarkL]

Of course, it's the guns... It couldn't possibly be the city administration, could it? Funny how the crime rate kept dropping under Rudy. While I hate many of his policies and beliefs, the guy did know how to clean up the city.

Mark

[muleskinner]

Giuliani wrote a book called "Leadership".
In it, he mentions a crime fighting theory called "Broken Windows". That theory convinced Rudy to crack down on "minor" infractions like panhandling, graffiti, and turnstile jumping, which in turn would greatly reduce all crime, including major felonies.

The results proved the theory.

I suggest even Rudy haters should read "Leadership", we could all learn something.

And yes, he even addresses his martal issues.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe,
and preserve order in the world as well as property...
Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
~ Thomas Paine

[org.whodat]

Blame immigration. Blame the Courts. Blame the attorneys. Blame the legislators for not passing stronger laws.

I recall reading a few years ago that new york has ten's of thousands of outstanding warrants for people who have committed gun and gun related crimes. One TV show went to a local police station and ask why they were so many warrants outstanding. the police said they couldn't arrest someone they couldn't find. The reporter picked four warrants at random and found them all in one day. One lived within a block of the police station. So what do you do??

[Alberta's Child]

In the immortal words of one astute Freeper . . .

Rudy Giuliani is the solution to a problem most Americans don't have.

[oldenuff2no]

I know this story is a total lie. With all the gun control they have there can't be any gun violence in NYC. Gun Control laws are so affective that there will be no gun crime anywhere in the world soon.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

What, are the Knicks back in town?

ROFL

[org.whodat]

You forgot the!!!! LOL,

[KoRn]

Just a thought. I wonder if the WTC attack on 911 counted as homicides for the statistics during the year of 2001 for NYC.

[tkathy]

I suspect wherever illegals and troubled immigrants are, the crime statistics are skyrocketing.

[durasell]

Just a thought. I wonder if the WTC attack on 911 counted as homicides for the statistics during the year of 2001 for NYC.





No, they were counted differently.

[OldFriend]

Blooming-idiot is now saying that the death rate has 'reclassified homicides'........LOL......suggesting that people were shot in the previous year and then died in 2006.

Guess he always felt that sending squads of police officers into restaurants and bars to make sure no one was smoking, was more important that stopping murderers and rapists.

[OldFriend]

So you think most of America is crime free?

[durasell]

Rudy Giuliani is the solution to a problem most Americans don't have.




Wrong solution to a problem that many Americans have. What works in NYC doesn't work anywhere else.