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To: Thorin

Per the Humphrey-Hawkins bill that defined unemployment levels, the USA is at inflationary levels of full employment. If industrial production were to increase in the USA, from where would the employees come? prisons? drug rehab centers?

And this overseas activity is not limited to industrial production. Software production is also going overseas. Why?

1) Lousy public education system is not turning out Americans capable of doing the critical work.
2) Pride, arrogance abounds in the work force. Many people are not willing to do "third world" work.

3) Not enough immigration. I work beside highly paid immigrant software developers because not enough Americans can be found who are willing and able to do the work.

Immigration is the enemy of outsourcing. Outsourcing is the enemy of immigration. It is that simple. Increase immigration and the production will be in the USA. Stop immigration and production will go overseas.

Solution: Petition Congress to

. . . . . . . REPEAL THE LAWS OF ECONOMICS


13 posted on 12/27/2006 5:48:15 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

Why would I spend all the money it takes to get a degree in engineering when my job will probably be sent overseas?


133 posted on 12/27/2006 9:45:44 AM PST by tertiary01
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To: spintreebob
1) Lousy public education system is not turning out Americans capable of doing the critical work.

What a joke, when I graduated the number of engineering and computer science students were growing so fast it was depressing wages yet we still inflated the number of H1B Visas and saw outsourcing hit IT. Because of these items fewer people went into Engineering.

2) Pride, arrogance abounds in the work force. Many people are not willing to do "third world" work.

Please define third world work? and what does it have to do with high end manufacturing? Third world wages and not the work itself is more the issue. People will do pretty much any work no matter how degrading they might consider it if they are compensated appropriately.

3) Not enough immigration. I work beside highly paid immigrant software developers because not enough Americans can be found who are willing and able to do the work.

I can sort of agree with this, I already addressed why there is trouble pulling in Engineers (nobody thinks long term this is a good field for Americans) And given the new growth in H1B visas vs the expected growth of that field I would *never* go into IT if I had it to do over again.

I am all for more immigration, controlled, legal and tightly regulated.

201 posted on 12/27/2006 11:20:40 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: spintreebob
Not enough immigration. I work beside highly paid immigrant software developers because not enough Americans can be found who are willing and able to do the work.

The right kind of immigration is fine. The kind we had prior to 1965 when there was a high standard of performance required to enter the U.S. We don't need the kind of immmigration fostered by the crappy immigration reform pushed by Kennedy in 1965...or the crap he is trying to push today.

It's obvious there is a problem when businesses all over town have "hiring" signs in the windows and can't find enough people to fill the jobs. The local Walmart can't keep a full staff of grocery stockers at $8.75/hour.

217 posted on 12/27/2006 11:42:49 AM PST by Myrddin
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