Preparing For The Biggest Experiment On Earth

Science Daily ^ | 12-17-2006

[nascarnation]

It's the end of the world as we know it...
It's the end of the world as we know it...

and I feel fine, LOL

[ryan125]

You can make a black hole out of any amount of matter as long as you compress it small enough, they are trying to detect miniature black holes that they make themselves, the time that they expect it to exist is to short to not even know if it existed which is why they will record the type of radiation that comes from the black hole. That isn't all they are doing with it though, I believe it is a normal particle accelerator except much more powerful. Cern did want to go a lot bigger though, and probably will in the future that is when we truly need to worry. Although this experiment could be bad enough, if a black hole was created for that very very small period of time, it could munch up some subatomic particles that where in an atom. Because protons, neutrons, and electrons are made up of smaller orbiting particles they don't have an actual size and you can compress them. This experiment has NEVER been done before obviously, and no one can truly say what would happen if a small black hole was created while touching or even inside of another particle. The gravity of the black hole would remain the same of the particles that created it, so it wouldn't draw anything to it but while being inside of a particle accelerator at least in my mind is BAD. I think the best way to explain it is to take the information from the article itself where it says they are trying to recreate an event that took place right after the big bang. I'm not sure how to say this but an even that caused all of the matter and energy in the universe to be created i personally don't want being repeated on my planet.

[dhuffman@awod.com]

He bought the STS dog and pony show with our SCSC money.

[KyHammer]

Now this is a comforting thread. Every time I read about physics I find that everything physicists used to know was wrong but now they've got it all figured out.

[onedoug]

It's okay. Some even suggest we're in a black hole already;
tremendous mass, though relatively low density.

[Strategerist]

This experiment has NEVER been done before obviously

Actually, it has. There are some natural Cosmic Rays that are actually more powerful and energetic than what the Large Hadron Collider can crank up that have hit the Earth's atmosphere....

And we're still here and the earth hasn't been destroyed.

Unfortunately it's hard to set up instruments around where one of those Cosmic Rays randomly hits, hence the need for the Collider.

[ryan125]

No according to physics a black hole must be able to trap light, if it is just really massive and borderline collapsing on itself it is usually referred to as Michael Moore.

[Sir_Ed]

I wish we had built the super-collider in Texas.

What things we would have found out!

Ed

[Strategerist]

Going to be pretty lame if experimental proof of other dimensions beyond 3+1 is found, probably the biggest discovery in the history of science, and it's in France instead of Texas.

[dhuffman@awod.com]

Yes. But remember what we did find out!

What good is the camel's nose in the big tent? It does not belong! Politics in science is merely an expression of remorse for use of atomic bombs in Nippon.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns.

[ryan125]

According to someone much smarter then me "The incoming Gold Ion [Cosmic Ray], being ‘charged’, would be SIGNIFICANTLY affected/slowed by the randomly oriented charge flux in Earth/Atmospheric matter environment LONG before it finally ‘collides’ with any particular planet-sourced ion."

[Hot Tabasco]

Looks like a primitive Stargate to me...........I would be very scared if some dude with a gold thing on his forehead stepped thru it..........

[blam]

"I'm not sure how to say this but an even that caused all of the matter and energy in the universe to be created i personally don't want being repeated on my planet."

Want to join the protest march, lol.

[Strategerist]

In general, I'd warn people not to be taken in by the frenzy of "OHMIGOD THE EARTH WILL BE DESTROYED" stuff on the internet in the months and weeks leading up to when this is turned on - I expect a lot of the usual suspect Apocalyptikook websites will go nuts over this.

[blam]

" I expect a lot of the usual suspect Apocalyptikook websites will go nuts over this."

Absolutely. Someone will even find it in the writings of Nostradomas(sp).

[ryan125]

No thx I don't want my picture to appear on the Internet protesting this. Because I have a strange feeling that some how this will be tied into a theory about man made global warming caused by magnets.

[ryan125]

Hey I have a reason to complain i have my entire life up until 2012, i don't want to die before that ;P.

[indthkr]

"I'm not sure how to say this but an even that caused all of the matter and energy in the universe to be created i personally don't want being repeated on my planet."

I'd rather not have it happen in my little neck of the Milky Way Galaxy.

There were a series of sci-fi books written in the late 1980's (starting with "Hyperion", I believe) where the Human Race was forced to flee the Earth because a bunch of crazy scientists "accidentally" created a black hole that fell to the center of the Earth, and consumed it.

[Sir_Ed]

Yup...breaks my heart.

Ed

[ryan125]

I bet my dad owns it ill have to ask him he likes old science fiction books and movies. I'm the complete opposite though I hardly read ones that came out before I was born.