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2 climbers may have fallen and died
Associated Press ^ | 12-18-2006 | JOSEPH B. FRAZIER

Posted on 12/18/2006 2:53:04 PM PST by Westlander

HOOD RIVER, Ore. - Two climbers still missing on Mount Hood may have been swept to their deaths over a treacherous cliff by howling winds of more than 100 mph after they left their possibly injured companion behind in a snow cave to get help.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: climbers; fallen; mountain; mounthood; mthood; oregon
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Question for the climbers out there - why climb in the winter?
1 posted on 12/18/2006 2:53:08 PM PST by Westlander
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To: Westlander

Because it's there.


2 posted on 12/18/2006 2:55:42 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Westlander
Question for the climbers out there - why climb in the winter?

1. As preparation for a more difficult mountain that will have wintry conditions even in summer. Everest, for example.

2. Because it can actually be more dangerous to climb some mountains in the summer, as the snow becomes unstable, rocks get loose, etc.

3 posted on 12/18/2006 2:55:51 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Westlander
why climb in the winter?

I'm not a climber, but I'll guess that being safe and warm just isn't adventurous enough for some folks.

4 posted on 12/18/2006 2:57:48 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Westlander
why climb in the winter?

Less risk of heat stroke.

5 posted on 12/18/2006 2:58:12 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: razorback-bert

they were actually looking for Natalie Holloway's real killer.


6 posted on 12/18/2006 3:01:35 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Westlander
You know every survival book I have ever read tells you that when you are lost to STOP (Sit, Think, Observe, Plan). Sadly it appears that they did not and so were lost.

Yes, it is embarrassing to have to be rescued. It is worse to be dead.

7 posted on 12/18/2006 3:01:40 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: NittanyLion
look, i'm really sad and sorry this has happened. didn't several of these guys have kids? and why expect your family or society to pay for all these helicopters, etc., to pay for the search and rescue?

i hate to sound hard-hearted, but when you climb in december when the season is june to september, you kinda get what you paid for.

8 posted on 12/18/2006 3:03:43 PM PST by wildwood
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My God, WHY don't they carry flares?????


9 posted on 12/18/2006 3:03:56 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: Westlander
Question for the climbers out there - why climb in the winter?

This question is no different than the more generic, "Why climb at all?".

Frankly I couldn't care less either way, my concern is, why should we spend millions of dollars and risk the lives of hundreds of people for the benefit of risk takers that refuse to buy a radio locator beacon before their trip?

Before you jump all over me, I don't want to stop rescue missions, and I understand it's good training for the military, and that most others are volunteers, however I think it is a little inconsiderate for risk takers to not equip themselves properly when they know what kind of rescue effort well intentioned Americans can mount...

10 posted on 12/18/2006 3:04:25 PM PST by mwilli20
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To: Rakkasan1
they were actually looking for Natalie Holloway's real killer.

They were helping me look for the real killers

11 posted on 12/18/2006 3:05:06 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You really don't know that to be true. These were very advanced mountaineers. It appears their friend was in big trouble and they took on risks to attempt to save his life.


12 posted on 12/18/2006 3:08:05 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Westlander
The construction of Cascade range volcanos is not good making them prone to rock fall.
Climbing in the winter eliminates this problem but Mt Hood weather patterns can be tough to predict.
13 posted on 12/18/2006 3:08:36 PM PST by Zathras
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To: jackibutterfly

Flares are not the best signaling device. The easiest, most effective device for being spotted in the day time is a mirror. At night use a strobe light. Both are cheap and you don't burn yourself trying to light them.


14 posted on 12/18/2006 3:11:46 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Westlander

I think on my next mountain climbing expedition I'm going to bring a gps device, a cell phone, spare batteries for both, and a flare.


15 posted on 12/18/2006 3:12:04 PM PST by jjw
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To: jackibutterfly

Weight.


16 posted on 12/18/2006 3:12:12 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Westlander
Things don't look good for those two IMO. After the good weather yesterday if they were holed up in a cave riding out the storm they surely would have surfaced.

Afraid they may not be found until the spring melts some snow or they may never be found.

17 posted on 12/18/2006 3:13:17 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I agree. I was listening to the press conference earlier and the guy speaking said that when the one of them got hurt or couldn't go on, they all built a snow cave and the two left the one behind to go and get help. IMO, if they should have thought long and hard about the conditions of the weather and stayed in the snow cave all 3 together and IMO, likely would have all lived.

You have to think logically and leaving one of the party to go and get help when clearly the whether was so horrible it would have been best to say would have been smarter. But what do I know?!


18 posted on 12/18/2006 3:15:37 PM PST by Halls (God, please grant me the serenity to accept what I can not change....)
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To: wildwood

IMO a lot of the rescue effort is training for the Air National Guard and our equipment. For example, the plane flying over to look for signs of heat... they had someone dig a cave and go into it to see at what depth the equipment detects body heat.. won't give the information out to the public for security reasons, but it was one of the things going on during the rescue.


19 posted on 12/18/2006 3:17:04 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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Some clairvoyant A-H posted this on Wikipedia:  Takes all kinds I guess.
  • On December 18, 2006, all three climbers that were missing are now confirmed dead. Yesterday from the above date, they found Kelly James' body. The next day the others were dead after falling down the slope. This is very tragic and everyone is extremely sorry for these three families.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hood


20 posted on 12/18/2006 3:18:12 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake.)
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