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Ministry Solicits To Pay For Jet (Benny Hinn's Ministry, That Is....
Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 15, 2006 | Mark Babinek

Posted on 12/18/2006 7:23:27 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

This version of Benny and the jet has nothing to do with the hit Elton John song.

"Benny" is Benny Hinn, the Dallas-area televangelist. The jet is Dove One, a Gulfstream G4SP that his ministry recently acquired, according to his Web site.

Hinn's ministry did not return a call from the Houston Chronicle, but it has very publicly sought help paying for the plane. Hinn wants 6,000 of his "partners" to donate $1,000 each toward the down payment. Extensive information about Dove One on the Web doesn't include the total cost, but similiar Gulfstream jets appear to sell for at least $30 million.

Donors of $1,000 or more get a scale model of Dove One and their names inscribed inside the plane, Hinn said.

But a frequent critic of televangelists, Ole Anthony, suggests another way if Hinn wants to reach unchurched people around the globe.

"For the amonunt of money it takes to fly one of these things, he could take his whole staff first-class on a commercial flight," said Anthony, head of the Trinity Foundation in Dallas.

Anthony's group has scrutinized Hinn's ministry for years, focusing particulary on such expenditures as a California parsonage overlooking the Pacific Ocean, reportedly worth about $10 million.

Hinn, on his Web site, says he is merely answering God's call in Isaiah 6:8: "Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?"

HInn's response: "Long ago I said, 'I will go, Lord. Send me! But I cannot do it without you, nor can I do all our wonderful Lord has called me to do without Dove One!"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: anthony; bennyhinn; huckster; oleanthony; televangelist; trinityfoundation
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1 posted on 12/18/2006 7:23:30 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Wow, they get a miniature jet with their name inscribed inside it.

Hinn gets the real deal in return.

Yes, Benny needs this plane. Will you help him? He really needs your help so that he may fly in such comfort as this jet will afford.

Strangely, I Don't remember Isaiah 6:8 saying anything about getting a jet like this for heeding the call, but who am I to question Hinn.

Yes, all who heed the Lord's call get a jet like this, right?
2 posted on 12/18/2006 7:26:11 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Guys like Benny Hinn make Jim and Tammy Faye Baker look like saints.


3 posted on 12/18/2006 7:26:12 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Hinn, on his Web site, says he is merely answering God's call in Isaiah 6:8: "Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?"

The problem, Benny .... is the fact that you want to arrive like some friggin' king or something ... you stupid haired phoney.

4 posted on 12/18/2006 7:27:34 AM PST by Fighting Irish (My opinions have been forged by where I've walked - not by who I hear on the radio)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
B..b...b...b...Benny needs a jet!
5 posted on 12/18/2006 7:27:38 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: pgkdan

Living proof that you can get rich selling cheap Grace.


6 posted on 12/18/2006 7:28:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

But there also arose false prophets among the people, as among you also there will be false teachers, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction. Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. In covetousness they will exploit you [KJV- make merchandise of you] with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3)


7 posted on 12/18/2006 7:28:21 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Just another journalist looking for something that'll stick.

The Man has a private plane for the same reasons all people who have them do...

Chiefly, because you can come and go anywhere as you please.

Egads...God forbid!!


8 posted on 12/18/2006 7:38:55 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I have never seen the allure of mega churches and TV ministry. So many of those guys seem like nothing but sleazy charlatans. I'm much happier attending a small church were everyone knows everyone else than a big impersonal warehouse style church with a minister raking in the big bucks from TV, etc.
9 posted on 12/18/2006 7:43:31 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: VaBthang4

He is looking a bit silly soliciting donations to pay for it after he bought it, though.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a high-income person, even a televangelist, buying a jet he can afford.

But there is something distinctly strange about someone buying a jet he's not sure if he can afford.

Has he considered maintenance costs? If he doesn't know, they're sky high, literally. Just in fuel and FAA-required maintenance I think you're talking about $3,000-odd an hour, and then I believe you need both pilot and copilot to fly it.

If you're not using it every day, it might be better to charter it - it would cost about $10,000 per flight hour which is a lot cheaper than millions of dollars + $3,000 a flight hour unless you have a lot of flight hours in mind. Or fractional ownership could work.

D


10 posted on 12/18/2006 7:44:43 AM PST by daviddennis (If you like my stuff, please visit amazing.com, my new social networking site!)
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To: VaBthang4

The Man has a private plane for the same reasons all people who have them do...
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Oh please. Most of the others have to pay for the plane themselves. Hinn is selling modern day indulgences to pay for his.


11 posted on 12/18/2006 7:46:01 AM PST by dmz
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To: VaBthang4
The Man has a private plane for the same reasons all people who have them do...

Most people that have them don't prey on the simple minded, infirm and financially insecure elderly to pay for their private planes.

12 posted on 12/18/2006 7:46:14 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

On the other hand, up in the air would make for an easier shot if God wanted to zot him.


13 posted on 12/18/2006 7:49:43 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
What a big time phony-baloney charlatan. This guy is about as sincere in his belief of Christ and his ministry as Karl Marx was. Hinn's in it for the money - period.

Hucksters like Benny do far more damage to legitimate ministries and outreaches than most people realize because they turn off people who are seeking real change in their life, but shun turning to God when they see such an obvious display of greed and avarice in someone who 'claims' to speak for the Lord.

Hinn can go on conning people in the name of God, but one day he himself will have to stand before the Almighty and give an account of his actions, and I doubt God will give him a passing grade.
14 posted on 12/18/2006 7:51:33 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Private jets are all the rage among televangelists these days:

http://www.elitecxteam.org/


15 posted on 12/18/2006 7:52:51 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Did you know that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has a completely unpaid clergy ? They consider it an absolute sin to accept any form of "filthy lucre" in exchange for service.

Christ led by example in this and all things.

16 posted on 12/18/2006 7:58:59 AM PST by SENTINEL (USMC GWI (MY GOD IS GOD, ROCKCHUCKER !!))
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To: daviddennis
You've suggested two excellent alternatives:

- Charter
- Fractional ownership

Either of these would work fine for most of us.

But not for Binny. As an uber-megalomaniac, he needs to "own" the plane to be satisfied.

I don't know much about him, but I suspect he's a sociopath.

17 posted on 12/18/2006 8:16:56 AM PST by upchuck (What's done is done. And if we don't get our stuff together, it'll be done to us again in 2008!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I publish a weekly report of business aircraft transactions in the U.S., and I see a religious entity acquiring one at least once a month. From twin pistons up to Gulfstreams, but mostly in the Citation range. Off the top of my head, the largest single group of non-manufacturing owners would be builders/developers, followed by auto dealers.


18 posted on 12/18/2006 8:19:11 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: VaBthang4

We've come along way from "the Son of man has no place to lay his head," haven't we?

Benny's a crook, plain and simple. His fake miracles, false prophecies, lies about his personal history, fleecing of the faithful and nefarious financial ways are well documented.


19 posted on 12/18/2006 8:21:15 AM PST by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Fools and their money...


20 posted on 12/18/2006 8:26:40 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: dmz

"Oh please. Most of the others have to pay for the plane themselves. Hinn is selling modern day indulgences to pay for his."

Heaven forbid that he buy a humble King Air 300. A USED one.


21 posted on 12/18/2006 8:27:12 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Wolfie

Benny: Now I can take my friends to the Super Bowl in style. (The Jerk)


22 posted on 12/18/2006 8:42:33 AM PST by highnoon (Expectations are dissapointments under construction.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
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I approve!

23 posted on 12/18/2006 8:49:34 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: upchuck
I don't know much about him, but I suspect he's a sociopath.

Be that as it may, he is providing a much needed public service---injecting the money of fools and crazy people into the durable items market.

24 posted on 12/18/2006 8:54:40 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

"HInn's response: "Long ago I said, 'I will go, Lord. Send me! But I cannot do it without you, nor can I do all our wonderful Lord has called me to do without Dove One!"

If God is sending him, God will pay his way. Hari Krishnas beg for money.

Richard Mueller was a man of prayer. He ran an orphanage. One day, they were out of food and money.

He got down on his knees and said, "Lord, we have no food. You have always met all our needs. We look to you now for some food." He had the table set and the kids sit down to breakfast.

There was a knock at the door. He opened the door and a bakery truck was parked out front. The driver said, "My truck is broken down and all my baked goods are going to spoil. Can you use them?"

That's my God and Richard Mueller's. He pays His own way.


25 posted on 12/18/2006 9:01:34 AM PST by RoadTest (Both manifestations of The Word Of God are alive and powerful.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
This is surprisingly familiar. Where have I heard this before...?

Oh yeah. Here.

26 posted on 12/18/2006 9:13:10 AM PST by mbraynard
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He needs to raise money for hair implants so he can get rid of that ridiculous comb over.


27 posted on 12/18/2006 9:47:27 AM PST by manic4organic
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Has he considered fractional ownership with Victoria Osteen? Her flying choices are somewhat limited, given that Continental is based in Houston.


28 posted on 12/18/2006 9:49:52 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: RoadTest

That is a GREAT story, thanks for sharing.

Kind of related, in the "nothing can separate us from the love of God sense" - our pastor has been preaching on Romans and yesterday wrapped up part of Romans 8 with a story about a Vietnamese Christian who during the war travelled with an American missionary, translating for him all over the country.

After the war the Vietnamese Christian was imprisoned for his faith and for "aiding the Americans." For years he was fed Marxist propaganda, allowed no English and no written publications other than communist ones, until he began to doubt his faith - what if he was wrong, what if there was no God, and then finally one day he decided that the next day, he would choose not to pray. The next morning he was assigned to clean the bathrooms, was emptying one pot, saw a piece of paper with what he thought was English, snatched it up, put it in his pocket, and kept it hidden until late that night when everyone was asleep. He got it out of his pocket and the paper said nothing but the words "Romans 8." He broke down and cried because he knew exactly of what that chapter consisted.

Simply awesome is our God.


29 posted on 12/18/2006 10:13:13 AM PST by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: RoadTest

I have absolutely no problem with ministries asking for money. The Apostle Paul asked for money, I believe, in 2 Corinthians. As the old saying goes, "You can't change the world if you can't pay the bills."

I have a problem in this case with what the money is used for. A private jet is a ridiculous expense.


30 posted on 12/18/2006 10:16:56 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Fighting Irish

What is it with televangelists and their HAIR?
Look at that Crouch woman and that pink explosion atop her head!
I cannot believe SO MANY people can be fooled into giving money to these people.


31 posted on 12/18/2006 10:22:14 AM PST by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Zack Nguyen

I can just see Paul now, cruising around the Med in his own personal trireme. lol


32 posted on 12/18/2006 10:29:08 AM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: SENTINEL

1 Timothy 5:17-18

"The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. 18For the Scripture says, "Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain," and "The worker deserves his wages."

NIV version

In other words, a paid clergy is completely Biblical.



33 posted on 12/18/2006 10:41:02 AM PST by fishtank
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Clown!


34 posted on 12/18/2006 10:44:22 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: manic4organic

Looks like a Foster Freeze Double Whirly Dilly...

35 posted on 12/18/2006 10:48:24 AM PST by ErnBatavia (recent nightmare: Googled up "Helen Thomas nude"....)
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To: Muzzle_em


36 posted on 12/18/2006 11:02:47 AM PST by Fighting Irish (My opinions have been forged by where I've walked - not by who I hear on the radio)
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To: SENTINEL

How do they pay for their wants and needs?


37 posted on 12/18/2006 11:25:15 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Wormwood
Be that as it may, he is providing a much needed public service---injecting the money of fools and crazy people into the durable items market.

I could not have said it better.

38 posted on 12/18/2006 11:26:31 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Quix; topcat54; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus

Hey Quix,

How much are you kicking in?


39 posted on 12/18/2006 11:28:11 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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To: Muzzle_em; Alex Murphy

Hey Alex, where' the Hair pic?


40 posted on 12/18/2006 11:35:48 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ya know, a used turboprop transport along the lines of a Hercules or a Provider would probably be cheaper AND more appropriate... And it would be able to carry relief supplies. And it would show some humility.

I wouldn't expect that of Benny Hinn, though.


41 posted on 12/18/2006 11:40:36 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: agrace

Thanks. That''s a good one, too.


42 posted on 12/18/2006 11:52:12 AM PST by RoadTest (Both manifestations of The Word Of God are alive and powerful.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

They have regular 9 to 5 type jobs.


43 posted on 12/18/2006 11:53:40 AM PST by uglybiker (A bunch of radical Unitarians left a flaming question mark on my lawn!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Out of thier own pockets. Many work full time jobs in addition to their church callings which can take 40-50 hours per week. Even the young missionaries pay their own way, just like Christ.


44 posted on 12/18/2006 12:05:04 PM PST by SENTINEL (USMC GWI (MY GOD IS GOD, ROCKCHUCKER !!))
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To: Old_Mil

Perfect scripute. This man is a disgrace to the Gospel. CO


45 posted on 12/18/2006 1:33:31 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: RoadTest

That's my God also!!


46 posted on 12/18/2006 1:40:10 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Seeing the headline, I instantly recalled Oral Roberts in the tower years ago.

To quote the PGA promo, "These guys are good!"


47 posted on 12/18/2006 1:43:45 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Old_Mil

Ole Peter was a pretty swift dude, huh? Pegged 'em right down to their motives.

Great Scripture quote.


48 posted on 12/18/2006 1:44:18 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: Gamecock

You mean the Holy Spirit Ramscoop one?


49 posted on 12/18/2006 3:08:14 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

wow. He's played LA, played Orlando, and now he's in Dallas. What's next, Vegas?


50 posted on 12/18/2006 4:49:23 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (He has cast down the mighty from their thrones)
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