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Many of the 'ADD generation' say no to meds
LA Times ^ | 18 December 2006 | Melissa Healy, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 12/18/2006 6:44:16 AM PST by shrinkermd

Newly minted grown-ups are carrying out a massive natural experiment by choosing to do without the drugs that profoundly affected their experience of childhood.

...American society remains deeply ambivalent about the diagnosis of ADD, a catch-all term used more commonly in the past that includes today's more well-known attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. (Children diagnosed with ADD typically have difficulty focusing and paying attention. Those with ADHD are physically frenetic as well.)

Almost three decades after the psychiatric profession first detailed the condition in its diagnostic manual, nagging questions remain: Does medicating a child with ADD help that child's well-being in the long term? Are there any negative consequences? And must it be a life-long prescription?

Although most mental health professionals believe that about 2 in 3 children with ADD will continue to contend with the condition as adults, the truth is that "we have very few firm numbers," says Dr. Xavier Castellanos, a leading ADD researcher at New York University.

In short, "There are more questions that are unanswered than are answered," says Lisa L. Weyandt, a psychologist at Central Washington University who studies college-bound kids with ADD. Nobody, she says, knows how these fledglings will fare away from home and neighborhood schools, and whether the medications that appeared to help them in grade school will continue to be of use to them as adults. "They are," Weyandt says, "in uncharted territory."

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"...What few studies there are suggest that ADD often still causes problems after kids grow up. For 13 years, Fischer and her colleague Dr. Russell A. Barkley tracked 147 children who had been diagnosed with ADD by age 7. They compared them with a set of kids from the same neighborhoods without ADD.

"In 2005, they reported that the young adults with a childhood ADD diagnosis were more likely to have dropped out of high school and to have been fired from jobs. They were more likely to have had sex earlier and became parents at a younger age than their non-ADD peers. They had higher credit card debt and fewer savings, and were far less likely to attend college.

"Young adults with ADD also appear to have more motor vehicle collisions and traffic citations and are more likely to experiment with illegal drugs. But the data suggest that ADD sufferers who took prescribed medication were less likely than those who did not to use illegal drugs.

This article is not of general interest, but for those dealing with the problem it is a good review of the disputes. There is a lack of evidence clearly documenting the need to continue Ritalin into adulthood.

1 posted on 12/18/2006 6:44:20 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Newly minted grown-ups are carrying out a massive natural experiment by choosing to do without the drugs that profoundly affected their experience of childhood.

Funny, seems to me the pyschobablists who are drugging a generation of children are the ones doing the experimenting on children.

2 posted on 12/18/2006 6:48:20 AM PST by Always Right
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To: shrinkermd

My stepmother was just diagnosed with ADD (at the age of 58) and I think I liked her better before she went on meds for it.

Now she just seems high all the time. It's very hard work being around her. She talks a mile a minute.

But she's happier, so I bite my tongue.


3 posted on 12/18/2006 6:49:59 AM PST by elc (Slingin' away)
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To: shrinkermd
Newly minted grown-ups are carrying out a massive natural experiment by choosing to do without the drugs that profoundly affected their experience of childhood.

"Massive natural experiment"?

What an absolutely idiotic choice of words.

4 posted on 12/18/2006 6:51:19 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: shrinkermd

There's no such thing as ADD!!! It's called BAD PARENTING!!If you're an adult and have been diagnosed with ADD, it's called BEING SUCKERED!!


5 posted on 12/18/2006 6:53:47 AM PST by albie
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To: shrinkermd
My cousin has a 7 y/o daughter and a 3 y/o son. He and his wife claim they are both ADD and I'll admit that they are both livewires. I think it's the parenting, though, because he and his wife will let the kids run wild until they have gotten on everybody's last nerve. Then they will pounce on the kids. It must be very confusing for them.

This past week we all got together and they had the daughter on meds. It was terrible. All of her personality was gone and she was just like a little robot. The medication is compensating for bad parenting.
6 posted on 12/18/2006 6:54:26 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: Psycho_Bunny

If you tell your kids they are screwed up..and give them drugs....then they will BELIEVE they are screwed up....and will get screwed up...


7 posted on 12/18/2006 6:55:14 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: shrinkermd
They drugged me with Ritalin when I was a kid. It's bad stuff. You are not the same person when you are under its influence and, if under it's influence for long enough, you're not the same person once you get off of it as well.

Guidance counselors and psychiatrists who put kids, especially boys, on this stuff need to be fired and/or have their credentials and certifications revoked.
8 posted on 12/18/2006 6:55:50 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: shrinkermd
When I cant stop fiddlin', I just take my ritalin, I'm Poppin' and sailin' man.

Bart Simpson

9 posted on 12/18/2006 6:58:37 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: shrinkermd
children and their parents expected ADD medication to help them succeed in school at a time when sitting still and compliance with rules was highly valued. But in the adult world, young people with ADD have far wider choices, and they should make them with an awareness of their strengths and their weaknesses, Diller says — not what others expect of them. Using medication "to take octagonal kids and fit them into square holes" may be acceptable in grade school, he says.

Here's the red meat about ADD - some kids need drugs to fit them into that monster called school. When the same kids are allowed to learn in a manner better fitting their personalities and drives, there is no need for drugs.

Any parent of such a kid needs to homeschool or use a tutoring service that works with high energy kids. In fact, I consider it bordering on child abuse to drug a child into submission.

10 posted on 12/18/2006 7:00:15 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: shrinkermd

It won't be long before the meds-bashers come along. I'd bet those people don't even have any kids, and if they do, have not faced one with real ADHD. My daughter probably wouldn't have survived without ADHD meds.


11 posted on 12/18/2006 7:00:18 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Iron my shirts, woman!)
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To: albie

It's a shame you are so ignorant on the subject. I'm sorry, but you are dead wrong.


12 posted on 12/18/2006 7:01:47 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Iron my shirts, woman!)
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To: JamesP81

I was put on Ritalin as an adult, believing the shrink when he said I had adult ADD. After two days I dumped the entire bottle. I hated the way it made me feel...spacy and loopy. On that day I swore I would never drug my future children with it.

Oh, and I dumped the shrink too.


13 posted on 12/18/2006 7:01:59 AM PST by jnygrl
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To: shrinkermd
"...What few studies there are suggest that ADD often still causes problems after kids grow up. For 13 years, Fischer and her colleague Dr. Russell A. Barkley tracked 147 children who had been diagnosed with ADD by age 7. They compared them with a set of kids from the same neighborhoods without ADD.

Looks to me like diagnosing kids as ADD stigmatize them and makes certain that they have problems later on in life.

14 posted on 12/18/2006 7:03:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: shrinkermd

Perhaps the dearth of sleep experienced by these overdiagnosed and overmedicated (like my son)children could account for later problems?
Ritalin is easy for the teacher, seductive for the parent, disaster for the child.


15 posted on 12/18/2006 7:04:40 AM PST by steve8714 (Isn't Israel a sovereign nation?)
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There's no such thing as ADD!!! It's called BAD PARENTING!!

As a parent of a child with ADD, let me be clear.

You're a moron.

16 posted on 12/18/2006 7:06:39 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: jnygrl
It didn't make me feel spacey it just made me feel...insignificant I guess would be a good word, but there's more to it than that.

I got to where I wouldn't talk with people. So from 3rd grade to 8th grade, I didn't socialize. When I finally quit taking it, I found myself a freshman in high school with the social experience of a third grader. Pretty bad scenario that ended as badly as you can well imagine. It literally took an act of God to correct the problems I had.

The truth of the matter is that kids, boys especially, have short attention spans and are hyper. That's not a disease: that's normal. If a person feels they can't handle that as a parent, then raising kids is not for them.
17 posted on 12/18/2006 7:09:13 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: shrinkermd

"This article is not of general interest, but for those dealing with the problem it is a good review of the disputes. There is a lack of evidence clearly documenting the need to continue Ritalin into adulthood."



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18 posted on 12/18/2006 7:09:50 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: albie
Had I been born a few years later, I would probably have been medicated to the gills. I was a problem kid with both social and attention-span issues who just didn't "fit the mold" that the system demanded. It was tough for me, and inconvenient for Mom and Dad, but I turned out OK.

I thank God that there was no such thing as Ritalyn when I was in school. I may have had some bad days, bit at least I was still me.

19 posted on 12/18/2006 7:10:54 AM PST by jboot (If I can't get a Josiah, I'll settle for a Jehu)
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"...medication is compensating for bad parenting."

Amen... and bad teachers and bad schools have a hand in it as well. A lot of this starts in the schools where the teachers are "diagnosing" ADD.

-jw

20 posted on 12/18/2006 7:11:10 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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