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To: Lurker
Would you rather have Muslim service members visiting a mosque off base, where you don't know what they're hearing, or a chaplain who is in the chain of command and can be court-martialed? The Chaplain General is not a fool.
5 posted on 12/18/2006 3:43:31 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: GAB-1955
Would you rather have Muslim service members visiting a mosque off base

I wonder how many US Marines would have been permitted to worship at Shinto shrines in 1943.

My guess is none.

L

6 posted on 12/18/2006 3:46:25 AM PST by Lurker (History's most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: GAB-1955
But what you suggest would be "politcally incorrect," and we can't do such a low-down dirty thing like that - even if it means protecting this country!

The outcry from bleeding heart liberals would have the good Chaplain's head on a platter!

9 posted on 12/18/2006 4:09:09 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: GAB-1955
keep it on base, wired with id for any muslim in the military.... security risk.... I would let one on my six... ever.

when you're deployed or out in the bush, you can make it so that people want to get transfered out and away.

If that's politically incorrect... so sorry. If it isn't the American way.... so sorry. If it's not the Christian way.... I'm a bad, fallen and sinful Christian... so sorry.

24 posted on 12/18/2006 7:53:16 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: GAB-1955
"Would you rather have Muslim service members visiting a mosque off base, where you don't know what they're hearing, or a chaplain who is in the chain of command and can be court-martialed? The Chaplain General is not a fool."

This is the "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" school of thought. It may be a strategy that works or it may not be. Problem is that if it doesn't work, then we have given the Wahhabis the appearance of legitimacy and have allowed them to infilitrate our military structure. Moreover, we haven't just backed a "mild & benign form of Islam" (if there is such a thing, I don't believe that there is) but rather the most radical form of Islam. What does that say to "moderate Muslims"? Only a 9/11 gets you respect? And preferential treatment?

It appears that the US is "not at war with Islam", but that doesn't mean that Islam is not at war with us. If you are not "Dar al Islam" (a Muslim country), then you are automatically considered "Dar al Harab" (the House of War) -- their words, not ours --it's Islam's inherently aggressive worldview. Until we all start bowing toward Mecca, then we are all in "the House of War" to them whether we like it or not!

It is a mistake to see Islam solely as "a religion" -- or even soley as "a political philosphy". Much as for many years we have tried to spread "American culture" accross the globe, Islam -- particularly Wahhabism -- has tried to spread "Arab culture" across the globe. For a Muslim, if you can't recite the Koran in Arabic, you aren't really and fully "a Muslim". If you take a look at Darfur, you see this in its most radical form -- virtually all the people killing and getting killed are Muslims -- but it is the Arab Muslims killing the African Muslims that has created this bloodbath. In Iraq, the civil war is the same -- Arab Sunnis at war with Persian (non-Arab) Shiites. What exists in Wahhabism is "a perfect storm" of an Arab worldview -- "spreading Arab culture and political philosphy world-wide (including by force if necessary) because Allah (God) demands it and authorizes it". Even if we were to try to be inclusive with some form of Islam, this is the worst possible choice of Islamic candidates to be inclusive of, because it is the most radical and violent one.

The only thing that I see in this action of including Wahhabis into our military chaplaincy is Saudi petro-dollars at work in our government -- they are infilitrating our military because they have already infiltrated our government. Greedy politicians have already sold us out in return for getting their campaign coffers stuffed by the Saudis -- and now they are simply taking the next logical steps to gain control, infiltrating our military.

28 posted on 12/18/2006 10:42:05 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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