[familyop]

I disagree with both Prager and Foxman on a number of things regarding my First Amendment rights, BTW, and on a number of things regarding my sincere beliefs.

Neither of them are respected teachers to me. And one cannot go any more conservative way than the way of the Torah (as it applies to each of us all for our various heavier or lighter burdens). All else is libertine, serving our animal desires.

[Zionist Conspirator]

So far you're the only other FReeper I've found with a position on this issue similar to mine. I have no use for Foxman or the ADL whatsoever, but Prager is wrong to insist that someone swear on the scripture of a religion he doesn't believe in because of purely cultural/civilizational reasons. Religion's purpose is to be true, not to build or sustain anyone's culture, civilization, or country.

I respect and admire Mr. Prager for his political stands (though he was a pacifist on Israel at one time), but he's way out of line here. He's basically advocating a secular "civic religion."

Once again I am reminded that I am far more fundamentalist than conservative.