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California signs carbon trading deal with Manitoba
Central Valley Business Times ^ | December 14, 2006

Posted on 12/14/2006 1:55:46 PM PST by calcowgirl

California and Manitoba on Thursday pledged to work cooperatively to advance greenhouse gas emission reductions, particularly in the areas of clean energy, sustainable transportation and sustainable agriculture.

“This agreement with Manitoba, along with California's other agreements with the United Kingdom, Northeast states and others will address an issue that our federal government has yet to tackle," says Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger

As part of the five-year agreement signed by Mr. Schwarzenegger and Manitoba Premier Gary Doer, Manitoba intends take steps to continue to support greenhouse gas reduction goals and to enable credit-trading opportunities, particularly for sustainable on-farm practices.

Initial work will explore credit-trading opportunities between Manitoba and California, especially on off set credit trading protocols for livestock management, the governor’s office says.

California and Manitoba also agreed to continue sharing advanced technology and expertise for climate change mitigation.

The two governments also agreed to work together to enhance business and trade partnerships to advance low-emissions vehicle technology including hybrid and hydrogen bus development and the plug-in hybrid vehicle.

Manitoba will exchange its expertise in geothermal technologies with California's knowledge of solar power technologies under terms of the memorandum of understanding. Additionally, the two governments promise to share information on residential and commercial building efficiency, waste minimization and transportation and agricultural initiatives to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

"The science is clear. The global warming debate is over. We have a responsibility to act decisively to slow or even stop climate change," says Mr. Schwarzenegger. "But California cannot do it alone. Reducing greenhouse gas emissions is a global effort.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; carbontrading; environment; garydoer; globalwarming; manitoba
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1 posted on 12/14/2006 1:55:48 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Is it legal for a state to negotiate such a deal with a foreign power? I thought that was constitutionally reserved to the national government.


2 posted on 12/14/2006 1:58:17 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
The science is neither clear, the debate is far from over and contrary to Arnold, the world is not going to come to an end tomorrow morning if we don't act.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 12/14/2006 1:59:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lesser_satan
A state can enter into a compact with a foreign nation but it requires congressional consent. Of course with the Democrats soon to run Congress, its a given they'll let it go into effect.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 12/14/2006 2:01:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl

I think Maria said she would cut him off, if he did not become a raving global-warming enviro-nut job. I don't know what else to call it....


5 posted on 12/14/2006 2:02:01 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: goldstategop
...contrary to Arnold, the world is not going to come to an end tomorrow morning if we don't act.

But, of course, it has very little to do with the earth's climate.

"My goal is to work as hard as humanly possible to keep California growing, and to improve our quality of life, to protect our values, and to prepare our people for a global future."

6 posted on 12/14/2006 2:05:46 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
No, it doesn't. And the tab for this won't be due as long he's in office. That "global future" is someone else's problem to worry about.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

7 posted on 12/14/2006 2:08:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
Additionally, the two governments. . .

I'm not sure I like the implication.

Well, let California "sell" its little carbon footprints, Los Angeles could sure stand a bit of clean air.

8 posted on 12/14/2006 2:08:59 PM PST by Last Laugh
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Its all a scam.... trading carbons doesn't do what exactly, to reduce global warming? Basically, they're going to exchange credits to make it look like they're moving on it. Rest assured though, its not going to make the air one degree cooler.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

9 posted on 12/14/2006 2:11:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lesser_satan

This is not Constitutional.


10 posted on 12/14/2006 2:11:19 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Arnold's central planning isn't constitutional either but that hasn't stopped him.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

11 posted on 12/14/2006 2:12:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
All it's gonna do is cost taxpayers money.

BOHICA

12 posted on 12/14/2006 2:13:44 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: calcowgirl

"..... work as hard as humanly possible to keep California growing....."

Hell, Arnie, California is full-blown malignant already!


13 posted on 12/14/2006 2:15:00 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: goldstategop

"The science is neither clear, the debate is far from over and contrary to Arnold, the world is not going to come to an end tomorrow morning if we don't act."

Doesn't matter. It's not about the science, it's about the carbon trading. It's a money scam than will make Enron scadal look pale. This is just the beginning.

The "credits" will be fictional, unverifiable, etc. I bet you'll find the Milken/Enron alumni flocking to carbon credit trades.

Additionally in Europe, like the UK, they have to reduce emissions anyway by closing dirty power plants. So they are going to claim "carbon credits" and get stupid Americans to give them money for something they were already going to do.

It's like a new Stamp Act to bleed dry the colonies.


14 posted on 12/14/2006 2:16:11 PM PST by Shermy
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To: goldstategop
Rest assured though, its not going to make the air one degree cooler.

I forgot my sarcasm tag.

Carbon footprints = BAH! HUM BUG! I know it's a bunch of feel good idiocy, made up so liberals can pretend they are actually doing something.

California has some of the worse air pollution I have ever experienced, yet liberals there seem to scream and yell the loudest about it.

15 posted on 12/14/2006 2:16:44 PM PST by Last Laugh
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To: Doomonyou
Arnold's solution to his own self-created mess is to ship it off to Manitoba.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

16 posted on 12/14/2006 2:16:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lesser_satan
Is it legal for a state to negotiate such a deal with a foreign power? I thought that was constitutionally reserved to the national government.

It is illegal and this is not the first time California has done this. It is also illegal for states to sign agreements with Indian tribes but it also happens.

17 posted on 12/14/2006 2:17:01 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Shermy
Exactly. Its an ingenious way to address a non-existent problem.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

18 posted on 12/14/2006 2:18:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: taxesareforever
Congress can disapprove compacts. But it rarely does so.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 12/14/2006 2:19:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lesser_satan

"Is it legal for a state to negotiate such a deal with a foreign power?"

Depends on the definition of foreign power, I guess - Manitoba is a province, NOT a country.


20 posted on 12/14/2006 2:22:29 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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