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Baker's Iraq report is a study in appeasement (... if you've never read David Warren)
Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^
| Saturday, December 9, 2006
| David Warren
Posted on 12/11/2006 1:55:35 PM PST by GMMAC
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To me, there's no better conservative Catholic writer in North America today than David Warren.
Unfortunately, he gets relatively little broad exposure.
His website, davidwarrenonline, is an absolute treasure trove of gems like the one above.
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posted on
12/11/2006 1:55:39 PM PST
by
GMMAC
To: fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...
PING!
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posted on
12/11/2006 1:57:12 PM PST
by
GMMAC
(Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
To: GMMAC
This is what happens when you send a politician to do a man's job.
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posted on
12/11/2006 1:59:31 PM PST
by
Brilliant
To: GMMAC
Great comments. Baker's kind of "realism" in foreign policy is what brought us 9/11 in the first place.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:08:37 PM PST
by
My2Cents
(Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
To: GMMAC
Baker would have demanded diplomatic negotiations with Hitler on the eve of D-Day.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:09:23 PM PST
by
Brilliant
To: GMMAC
It is true that our problems there will be over, if we withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq. Well, perhaps the advantage of doing so would be, to show the Western electorate what comes next.If the '06 elections were about Americans' exhaustion over Iraq, as the media has told us, then perhaps we should give them what they want...withdraw into ourselves, and then wait for the next big terrorist strike. Maybe the next one will take out a few hundred thousand people. And maybe then the American voter will be motivated to ignore the nihilists on the left and will desire to truly drain the swamp in the Middle East.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:11:50 PM PST
by
My2Cents
(Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
To: Brilliant
As would Kofi and the UN. In the modern era, wars are apparently not meant to be won, but to fight to a stalemate so that "dipolmacy" can take over.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:12:45 PM PST
by
My2Cents
(Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
To: GMMAC
See
"Peace For Our Time" posted 2006/07/31/
I said in #3 to that posting:
"I posted this bit of history because I have a really bad feeling between my shoulder blades as to what may be about to happen in the Middle East."
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:18:15 PM PST
by
Clive
To: GMMAC
He is one of the best writers of any faith, imo.
This line bears a keen truth:
"Even those who recall what happened on Sept. 11th, 2001, have persuaded themselves that we are only a target because, after that fact, the U.S. went into Afghanistan and Iraq."
He nails the cognitive dissonance of the left very well.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:20:10 PM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
To: My2Cents
If the '06 elections were about Americans' exhaustion over Iraq, as the media has told us, then perhaps we should give them what they want...withdraw into ourselves, and then wait for the next big terrorist strike.Want it to go faster? 50% of Americans (conservatives, republicans, libertarians, constitutionalists) become Muslim. The enemy within has nowhere to hide. Then we do a John Kerry flip-flop and then....
/sarcasm
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:27:06 PM PST
by
PGalt
To: Brilliant
Baker and Hamilton should be sent into EXILE. And the 10 cowardly gnomes, too.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:27:19 PM PST
by
Rapscallion
(In war, be less civilized.)
To: GMMAC
To: GMMAC
Why should Baker not appease when he is in the Saudi pocket?
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:28:44 PM PST
by
353FMG
(I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
To: GMMAC
Baker Meese Eagleberger
ALL high level cabinet members in GOP administrations
And Baker is a friend of the Bush family
Nothing like living in an alternate universe
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:29:00 PM PST
by
uncbob
(m first)
To: Rapscallion
I just wish President Bush would fight back against the pelosi, kennedy, kerry, baker and hamilton pygmies.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:29:10 PM PST
by
Rapscallion
(In war, be less civilized.)
To: GMMAC
My thought was: if Churchill had only come to power in 1937, Chamberlain would have been installed to replace him in 1940.
War wasn't even over in 45 but obviously won when the British booted Winston out and brought the socialists back in
Vooters want the promised government free goodies
We are on the same path
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:31:41 PM PST
by
uncbob
(m first)
To: PGalt
Yeah, Mark Steyn points out that the ones who lose the most by the Muslims taking over are the secular leftists. He said that all he'll really need to do is grow his beard out a bit more and take on a couple more wives.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:38:14 PM PST
by
My2Cents
(Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
To: headsonpikes; My2Cents
I didn't mention Warren's Catholicism in relation to this article in particular - more with respect to other writings you'll find on his website and in the sense that, if anyone of our generation has picked up the torch from Bill Buckley ...
Apparently, there's not a Canadian conservative pundit of any stature who isn't a huge fan of Warren's.
If you've ever wondered who Mark Steyn reads ...
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:40:17 PM PST
by
GMMAC
(Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
To: Rapscallion
Ditto that. Bush and/or Condi should specifically, and forcefully, refute whichever of 79 recommendations they deem to be unrealistic.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:40:40 PM PST
by
My2Cents
(Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
To: uncbob
War wasn't even over in 45 Let it be known that the war was over by June of '45, but that the peace in Europe wasn't actually won for another 44 years, when the occupying Soviet regime finally collapsed.
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posted on
12/11/2006 2:43:16 PM PST
by
My2Cents
(Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
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