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Original "Venus" singer Mariska Veres dies
Antara News ^ | December 3, 2006

Posted on 12/04/2006 11:24:35 PM PST by bd476

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To: L.N. Smithee
L.N. Smithee wrote: "What always kills me about 'Venus' is that she pronounced the word 'goddess' with an 'N'. Listen closely; 'The god-ness on the mountaintop...' "

Good catch, L.N. I always thought that I was the only one who heard it. :-)

Mariska Veres' native tongue was Dutch yet she spoke fluent English as do most people in the Netherlands.

From info I found in the mini-biographies on the fan sites, Mariska was also probably fluent in German.

You may also notice pronunciation differences in the music of other Dutch bands, such as Peter Tetteroo, lead singer of Tee Set singing "Ma Belle Amie," Golden Earring's "Radar Love" and The George Baker Selection's "Green Bag."

Also, if you are a fan of classical music, listen to André Rieu, the Flying Dutchman speaking English on his specials on PBS.

"The girls in Bananarama (one of which is married to Andrew Ridgely, the other guy in Wham!) ought to thank God every morning for "Venus" because it saved them from being a one-hit wonder."
Agree completely.

I prefer Shocking Blue's version. Mariska Veres had a very powerful voice, yet while she was lead singer in Shocking Blue, she seemed very understated, almost reserved about using her voice full force.

Mariska Veres' Father was also a musician and her first public singing experiences were with him in his bands.


21 posted on 12/05/2006 10:04:38 AM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

A Goddess on a mountain top
Was burning like a silver flame
The summit of Beauty in love
And Venus was her name

She's got it yeah, Baby, she's got it
Well, I'm your Venus, I'm your fire
At your desire

Her weapon were her crystal eyes
Making every man mad
Black as the dark night she was
Got what no-one else had
Wa!

She's got it yeah, Baby, she's got it
Well, I'm your Venus, I'm your fire
At your desire


22 posted on 12/05/2006 10:07:59 AM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: moonman
I also was unfamiliar with the details of the group. I always thought it was a male singer.

Me too, but then I thought it was weird for a male to sing "I'm your Venus."

23 posted on 12/05/2006 10:09:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bd476

I thought Frankie Avalon was the original "Venus" singer.

(Ok now I've really dated myself)


24 posted on 12/05/2006 10:13:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Yehuda

bookmark for later.


25 posted on 12/05/2006 10:14:41 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: bd476

May she rest in peace.


26 posted on 12/05/2006 10:56:20 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: dfwgator

It was the Sixties. We were accustomed to songs that made no sense.


27 posted on 12/05/2006 11:16:30 AM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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To: Tall_Texan

LOL, after all Jimi sang "'scuse me while I kiss this guy."


28 posted on 12/05/2006 11:18:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bd476

Not often does the subject of Dutch 70s groups come up so I have to chime in about "Mouth and McNeil" (sp) who had a one-hit wonder called "How Do You Do". It's the most schizophrenic pop hit of all time, combining pounding rock music with interludes of vocal and strings. Worth a listen.


29 posted on 12/05/2006 11:25:47 AM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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To: Tall_Texan

The original "Una Paloma Blanca" (not the Slim Whitman version Rush plays) was also done by a Dutch group.


30 posted on 12/05/2006 11:27:48 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Tall_Texan
Tall_Texan wrote: "Sad she died so young. Until these pictures, I never knew for sure if the singer was a woman or a high-pitched male."

Yes, it really is sad. She was still singing in public performances earlier this year.

Mariska Veres was a powerful natural singer with a good range. During the time she was lead singer in Shocking Blue, she did not push her voice to the maximum yaowling/screaming level as do so many female pop singers.

Still it is a bit ironic that some would think that Mariska Veres was a man because Shocking Blue's management and record company had pushed very hard to market Miss Veres as a sultry sex symbol.

From everything I've read thus far, the last thing Mariska Veres wanted was to be promoted as a sex symbol.

One report says that she was very straight in her personal life and in business dealings.

According to some reports, Mariska didn't use any drugs, smoke cigarettes, nor drink any alcohol.

Before she accepted Shocking Blue's invitation to become lead singer, Mariska Veres insisted that all band members agree that each individual's relationship with her would remain strictly business and non-romantic.

32 posted on 12/05/2006 1:11:22 PM PST by bd476
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To: dfwgator

Yer busted dude!

And what are you doing on THIS thread? (me too!)


33 posted on 12/05/2006 1:17:43 PM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: subterfuge

It can't be all Gators all the time, you know. :)


34 posted on 12/05/2006 1:18:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Liberty Valance
Thanks Liberty Valance, and yes, hopefully she's resting in peace and/or singing in a rocking heavenly choir.

Just FYI, I've updated the thread with more info about her life.

35 posted on 12/05/2006 1:20:53 PM PST by bd476
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To: Yehuda

Yeah heard it at work.


36 posted on 12/05/2006 1:20:56 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: null and void
Thanks for posting the lyrics, Nully.

When I first heard the song, I thought that the line

"...Making every man mad" was actually

"Making every man lament"

Her weapon were her crystal eyes
Making every man mad
Black as the dark night she was
Got what no-one else had
Wa!

37 posted on 12/05/2006 1:26:22 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476
Mariska's never been married and has no children. She likes cats very much. Her favorite beverage is still tea.

Translation: Crazy cat lady


38 posted on 12/05/2006 1:31:41 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Hey, I liked Bananarama. I liked their video "It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it" with FunBoy3.


39 posted on 12/05/2006 1:33:21 PM PST by rabidralph (The pajama-wetters are at it again.)
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To: Tall_Texan
Tall_Texan wrote: "Not often does the subject of Dutch 70s groups come up so I have to chime in about "Mouth and McNeil" (sp) who had a one-hit wonder called "How Do You Do". It's the most schizophrenic pop hit of all time, combining pounding rock music with interludes of vocal and strings. Worth a listen."

First of all Tall_Texan, I love that song and I don't recall having heard that Mouth and MacNeal were from the Netherlands.

Secondly, thank you so very much (/sarcasm) for implanting that song's melody in my head today. I will be humming it all day and probably hearing it in my dreams tonight, lol!


Mouth and MacNeal aka
Willem Duyn & Sjoukje van 't Spijker



Biography

Big Mouth (born Willem Duyn in 1936) and Maggie MacNeal (born Sjoukje van 't Spijker in 1950) formed the duo Mouth & MacNeal in 1971. Before the two members got together they had already released some singles on their own.

Willem Duyn was a drummer with the Jay Jays for a short time during 1969, shortly afterwards forming the group Speedway with whom he recorded some singles.

Maggie MacNeal released a solo single in early 1971, I Heard It Through The Grapevine.

Willem and Maggie were brought together by Hans van Hemert, who also composed this year's Dutch entry. Where they failed separately, they were a success together, scoring with their first single Hey You Love a big top 5 hit in the Netherlands.

But the next single fared far better, being a number one in the Netherlands and going top 10 in America in 1972. The song was How Do You Do?.

The next single Hello-A was a number one in the Netherlands again, also scoring big in the rest of Europe.

More hits followed, but after Ik Zie Een Ster, the Dutch version of their Eurovision entry I See A Star, meant another top 3 hit in the Netherlands for the duo as well as a top 10 hit in the UK, Hans van Hemert thought it was time to change tactics.

He dropped Maggie from the duo, replacing her by Ingrid Kup. The duo, renamed Big Mouth and Little Eve, did manage to score some hits..." Eurovision Square ESC Today

After suffering a heart attack, Willem Duyn was on his way to the hospital when he passed away on December 4, 2004 at the age of 67.

How Do You Do?

Once I said I wanted you
I don't remember why
I often wonder if it's true
That you could make me cry
I only know it's long ago
You said I love you too
But I got one solution that
We're gonna start anew

How do you do
Mm Mm
I thought
Wa-na Na-na Na-na
Just me and you
And then we can
Na-na Na-na
Just like before
And you will say
Na-na Na-na
Please give me more
And you will think
Na-na Na-na
Hey that's what I'm living for

How do you do
Uh huh
I thought
Why na Na-na
Just me and you
And then we can
Na-na Na-na
Just like before
And you will say
Na-na Na-na
Please give me more
And you will think
Na-na Na-na
Hey that's what I'm living for

Once I said I wanted you
And I remember why
I often wonder if it's true
You still can make me cry
And now it's not so long ago
You said I love you true
'Cause I had one solution left
And that's we start anew

How do you do
Uh huh
I thought
Wa-na Na-na
Just me and you
And then we can
Na-na Na-na
Just like before
And you will say
Na-na Na-na
Please give me more
And you will think
Na-na Na-na
Hey that's what I'm living for

How do you do
Uh huh
I thought
By na Na-na
Just me and you
And then we can
Na-na Na-na
Just like before
And you will say
Na-na Na-na
Please give me more
And you will think
Na-na Na-na
Hey that's what I'm living for

How do you do
Uh-huh
La-la-la-la...
Hey that's what I'm living for

How do you do
La-la
La-la La-la-la-la-la...
Oldie Lyrics.com

40 posted on 12/05/2006 2:22:55 PM PST by bd476
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