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(Richard Reid) Held in darkness and paranoia
The Telegraph ^ | GMT 02/12/2006

Posted on 12/02/2006 5:19:37 PM PST by fanfan

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To: Gorzaloon

What religions ADVOCATE visual body-cavity searches? THIS IS INSANE!!!!!!


21 posted on 12/02/2006 5:51:13 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY GUILIANI FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008)
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To: fanfan
...buried in some Arabic hell of depression...

I'm sort of "grooving" on the possibility that the jihadis in Supermax are feeling a little blue...
22 posted on 12/02/2006 5:52:33 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I'm conservative, but I held my nose and voted Republican anyway.)
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To: fanfan
"They can't see grass or trees, they will never feel the touch of a loved one, they will never see bright colours, they're deprived of the sensory stimulation that you and I know."

So would hundreds of innocent people, if Reid had gotten away with destroying the plane.

23 posted on 12/02/2006 5:53:41 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: LibertarianLiz
...they will never see bright colours, they're deprived of the sensory stimulation...

Hey, let's make a deal! They want bright colors? They want "sensory stimulation"? LET'S FIRE UP OL' SPARKY!!! A moment or two in the electric chair oughtta do it!
24 posted on 12/02/2006 5:56:17 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I'm conservative, but I held my nose and voted Republican anyway.)
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To: fanfan
"I don't know Richard Reid, but I'll tell you one thing. You put a dog in a cage and keep poking it with a big stick, don't expect it to stay nice."
___________________________________________________________
Perhaps Gary Kalitolites doesn't understand that if the dog had not been rabid it wouldn't be there. This leads me to wonder why are we keeping a diseased animal alive?
25 posted on 12/02/2006 6:03:12 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Popman

The only television terrorists should ever be allowed to watch would be closed-circuit feeds of carefully selected material countering the propaganda these scumbags have imbibed for too many years..... not that I'm holding out much hope for their redemption, but they should spend all of their waking hours learning about the evils of their lives and the evils of their comrades, not being entertained or provided with Koranic instruction, etc.


26 posted on 12/02/2006 6:04:01 PM PST by Enchante (America-haters and Terrorists Around the World Embrace Chamberlain Democrats)
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To: fanfan
don't expect it to stay nice.

"Stay" nice? How nice was he when he tried to blow up a couple hundred strangers?

He's an animal. He deserves to be treated like one. And if he's got any complaints about the accommodations at Hotel Cement, let him go in my neck of the woods. I'll even give him a five-second head start.

27 posted on 12/02/2006 6:05:16 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Popman

Looks better than my first barracks room! He get's a private shower and toilet? I shared the group facility down the hall!


28 posted on 12/02/2006 6:07:06 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: fanfan
"I'm at war with your country," he yelled at the judge.

So, ah, Ricky, m'man...how's that working out for ya?

29 posted on 12/02/2006 6:07:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: fanfan
Just for information:

I live about 3 miles from a Club Med in Florida, which is a favorite vacation spot for Euro types, especially the french.

That holiday season I and my wife were there at the dinner buffet - it was pretty extensive, but I haven't returned since we boycotted all things french - and we met several passengers on that plane who personally subdued this jerk.

One was a doctor, the one who injected him with sedatives, after wrestling him to the floor.

Now Reid is a tough guy according to this account. 6' 4" right?

The esteemed doctor was short, fat, bald, and wore glasses.

Frankly, I was amazed that he was ever involved with any physical altercation, let alone a life and death struggle with a bomb carrying homicidal islamic lunatic, and I told him so in rather frank terms.

He answered simply, "What were we supposed to do, die?"

Not all frogs are cowards, it seems, and I'm no lover of the french, but those people on that flight have my respect.
30 posted on 12/02/2006 6:10:24 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: fanfan
From article: Before he re-enters his cell, Reid must be scanned by a special X-ray machine capable of detecting foreign objects under his T-shirt and sweatpants.

"For the other inmates, it's a case of undressing for a visual body-cavity search, but the Muslims have a religious issue that we need to respect," a prison source explained.

So, non Muslims are discriminated against by having body cav searches -- and Muslims get HANDS-OFF SPECIAL TREATMENT because of their religion?
Huh???

31 posted on 12/02/2006 6:12:16 PM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: Enchante
The only television terrorists should ever be allowed to watch would be closed-circuit feeds of carefully selected material countering the propaganda these scumbags have imbibed for too many years.....

Dr. Phil - 24/7

They will go stark raving mad in under a year

32 posted on 12/02/2006 6:15:29 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: fanfan

Good to know he's suffering as much as I wish he would be very time I have to pad barefoot through an airport security floor that thousands of other bare feet have used with nary a can of Lysol in sight.


33 posted on 12/02/2006 6:20:07 PM PST by hispanarepublicana (Funny, but I don't remember pressing 1 for English in 1994.)
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To: Gorzaloon

"Because hiding contraband in their rectums is one of the pillars of Islam.
Oh, a "Koran Holder" as it were!"

That's where it came from!


34 posted on 12/02/2006 6:20:55 PM PST by lawdude (The dems see Wal-Mart as a bigger threat to the US than muslim terrorists)
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To: fanfan

There should be voluntary suicide kits in these cells.


35 posted on 12/02/2006 6:21:35 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: fanfan; All

U.S. District Court Judge William Young:
Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the
Court imposes upon you. ... we all know that the way we
treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.

On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in
prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General.
On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years
in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run
consecutive one with the other. That's 80 years.

On Count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years
consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes
upon you on each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for
the aggregate fine of $2 million.

The Court accepts the government's recommendation with
respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount
of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.
The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.

The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release
simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences
are real life sentences so I need not go any further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes.
It is a fair and a just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.
Let me explain this to you.

We are not afraid of any of your terrorist co-conspirators,
Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire
before. There is all too much war talk here. And I say that
to everyone with the utmost respect.

Here in this court where we deal with individuals as
individuals, and care for individuals as individuals, as
human beings we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are
not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you
that reference, to call you a soldier gives you far too much
stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it
or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be your view,
you are a terrorist.

And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not treat with
terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists.
We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You're a big
fellow. But you're not that big. You're no warrior. I know
warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty
of multiple attempted murders.

In a very real sense Trooper Santiago had it right when first
you were taken off that plane and into custody and you
wondered where the press and where the TV crews were and you
said you're no big deal. You're no big deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally
able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I
have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why
you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here
to this courtroom today? I have listened respectfully to what
you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask
yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you
are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing.

And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I
search this entire record it comes as close to understanding as
I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most
precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our
individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we
choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.

Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry
it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize
individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful
courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see that justice is
administered fairly, individually, and discretely.

It is for freedom's seek that your lawyers are striving so
vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in
their, their representation of you before other judges. We care
about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid,
is the measure of our own liberties.

Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear any
burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms.

Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going
to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it
will be forgotten. But this, however, will long endure. Here, in
this courtroom, and courtrooms all across America, the American
people will gather to see that justice, individual justice,
justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done.

The very President of the United States through his officers will
have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which
specific matters can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather
to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape
and refine our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of
America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten.
That flag still stands for freedom. You know it always will.
Custody, Mr. Officer. Stand him down.


36 posted on 12/02/2006 6:24:32 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: fanfan

These illiterate scum are given more attention and treated better than Napoleon was 200 hundred years ago when he was imprisoned on St. Helena Island. Please tell me that the Western Civ has progressed since then! Because I'll take Napoleon any time.


37 posted on 12/02/2006 6:26:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: fanfan
Before he re-enters his cell, Reid must be scanned by a special X-ray machine capable of detecting foreign objects under his T-shirt and sweatpants.

If I were a guard, I'd set that sucker on stun.

38 posted on 12/02/2006 6:28:34 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: La Enchiladita
Excellent

I wonder what weasels represented this scum

39 posted on 12/02/2006 6:30:08 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: fanfan
other times, they are "sulking or buried in some Arabic hell of depression."

That so? I think we should send them something....

There... that oughta do it.

40 posted on 12/02/2006 6:32:35 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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