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Russia starts supplies of Su-30 fighters to Venezuela
Ria Novosti,Russia ^ | 30/ 11/ 2006

Posted on 11/30/2006 2:32:15 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Russia starts supplies of Su-30 fighters to Venezuela

10:24 | 30/ 11/ 2006

MOSCOW, November 30 (RIA Novosti) - Russia has shipped the first two Su-30MK2 multi-role fighters to Venezuela under a contract signed in July 2006, an aircraft manufacturing industry official said Thursday.

Russia signed $1-billion contracts on supplies of 24 Su-30MK2 Flanker fighters and 30 helicopters to Venezuela prior to this year's visit to Russia by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, triggering criticism from Washington, which regards the Venezuelan regime as a potential security threat in the region.

"The first Su-30MK2 fighters for the Venezuelan air force have been transported to Moscow by an An-124 Condor transport plane, and later they will be shipped to Venezuela," the official said, adding that two more fighters will be delivered to the Latin American country by the end of 2006.

Russian-made fighters will substitute American F-16 and French Mirage fighters currently deployed by the Venezuelan air force.

The Su-30MK2 is an export version of a formidable Su-27 Flanker air-superiority fighter capable of accomplishing a wide variety of combat missions at significant distances from the home base, in any weather conditions and severe jamming environment, both by day and night.


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KEYWORDS: airforce; armsbuildup; russia; su30; venezuela

1 posted on 11/30/2006 2:32:20 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Paleo Conservative

ping.


2 posted on 11/30/2006 2:42:30 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hugo really needs these planes he feels so threatened.

People dont need food but Hugo needs his sleep.


3 posted on 11/30/2006 2:44:20 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Do the Russians send flight instructors or does Chavez have to send his pilots to-be to Russia?

Just was wondering what kind of training camps Chavez is establishing?
4 posted on 11/30/2006 2:47:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Just was wondering what kind of training camps Chavez is establishing?

Chinese models help kick the tires and light the fires at training camp.


5 posted on 11/30/2006 3:18:58 AM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: Just mythoughts
The US Military would be wise not train any Venezuela nationals should they try to join up.

Is it my imagination or is Hugo trying to scare South America through his propaganda into thinking North America will invade them?

6 posted on 11/30/2006 3:19:09 AM PST by yoe
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To: All

OFF TOPIC...


http://www.internet-haganah.com/harchives/005779.html
20 November 2006
"HIZBALLAH LATIN AMERICA RECEIVES NEWS OF THEIR FIRST SHAHEED"

SNIPPET - QUOTE:

Given the strong affinity that Hizballah Venezuela shows for the country's current President for Life™ Hugo Chavez, it seems likely that this story has been created to provide a pretext for future "Hizballah" attacks on US and/or Jewish interests in Latin America. Teodoro says as much:

...esta es la información que tenemos de fuente no oficial que remitió a este comando, de resultar cierto tomaremos acciones extremas y gravísimas contra intereses norte americanos y judíos en Venezuela, las acciones incluyen el uso de explosivo de alto poder de destrucción.
Posted on 20 November 2006 @ 11:32


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http://internet-haganah.com/harchives/005763.html
25 October 2006
"UN SACRIFICIO POR LA CAUSA DE ALLAH"

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http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/10/23/en_pol_art_23A794417.shtml

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http://internet-haganah.com/harchives/005694.html
14 August 2006
"HIZBALLAH IN LATIN AMERICA: IN VENEZUELA AND ONLINE"


7 posted on 11/30/2006 3:25:09 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Just mythoughts

Not sure,though there were reports that the Ruskies would open a flight training facility there for the Flanker series given that apart from Caracas,Mexico & Brazil may also opt for variants of the type.

Anyway an interesting thing to note is that these deliveries were real quick relative to date of signing of contract unlike the Indian or Malaysian deliveries.Which probably means that these are dumb down SU-30K models or even ex-Indian aircraft(which were returned for new multirole ones).


8 posted on 11/30/2006 3:29:52 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: yoe
The US Military would be wise not train any Venezuela nationals should they try to join up. Is it my imagination or is Hugo trying to scare South America through his propaganda into thinking North America will invade them?

There does seem to be more than just the literal reenactment of Vietnam occurring these days, Venezuela may well be the new Cuba.

9 posted on 11/30/2006 3:34:13 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Anyway an interesting thing to note is that these deliveries were real quick relative to date of signing of contract unlike the Indian or Malaysian deliveries.Which probably means that these are dumb down SU-30K models or even ex-Indian aircraft(which were returned for new multirole ones).

I don't know about "dumb down", might be an efficient over production, and the deal was secret until it became a timely matter to announce. Chavez does not strike me as the type to expend his money for something less.

10 posted on 11/30/2006 3:39:30 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Major_Risktaker

The Sukhio Cheerleaders.

Why didn't we think of that!


11 posted on 11/30/2006 4:00:23 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Might make good practice drones for our boys in the F-22's!

LLS


12 posted on 11/30/2006 4:17:56 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOMYYLDqQ_s


13 posted on 11/30/2006 5:02:07 AM PST by vertolet
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How would these stack up to our F-16's sitting on the tarmac 38 miles away in Curaco?


14 posted on 11/30/2006 5:29:17 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Curacao.....oops


15 posted on 11/30/2006 5:31:11 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Very, very well. I'm thinking probably superior to the F-16, pilots being equal.


16 posted on 11/30/2006 5:33:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Here's an idea, we annex Guyana. Half their population is already here, literally, and they're English speakers and they're begging to join.

We then build the "Subic Bay" of the South Atlantic there along with a couple armored divisions and several wings of F-22's when get them.


17 posted on 11/30/2006 9:43:21 AM PST by Raymann
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To: Raymann

Well why not sign a friendship treaty or something like that-Better than annexation & it will sustain & boost their local economy & give uncle Sam a launchpad!!


18 posted on 11/30/2006 7:00:56 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: taxed2death

Depends.If it's a one on one visual range engagement,the SU-30 probably has the advantage.

If the US goes in the way it usually does,well it would be a big achievement if the SU-30s take off!!


19 posted on 11/30/2006 7:02:41 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why is that better? That country is severely depopulated from all their people moving to the US, legally I might add. We might as well just annex it and be able to do what we want.


20 posted on 11/30/2006 7:53:42 PM PST by Raymann
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To: Major_Risktaker; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

Here are some great photos of a B-1 bomber after the Air Force pilot forget to lower the landing gear!

You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the ramp!

Oops!

http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html


21 posted on 12/01/2006 8:30:23 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Yes, some of those pics made the email chain when it first happened. I love the debris falling from the nosewheel well!

Honestly, someone should come up with some sort of list for the aircrew to read from during approach to make sure they don't forget anything... </sarc>

22 posted on 12/01/2006 8:40:40 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Major_Risktaker

"This is what I call a target rich environment."
23 posted on 12/01/2006 8:47:15 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: KeyLargo
Amazing.

There are two old sayings that come to mind --I'm not sure which is appropriate.

"Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing."

"There are two kinds of pilots, them that've landed with the gear up, and them that will."

 

24 posted on 12/01/2006 8:52:01 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Yo-Yo
Honestly, someone should come up with some sort of list for the aircrew to read from during approach ....

I guess, in their wisdom, the USAF has dropped the in-traffic-pattern pre-checklist whose acronym (drilled into me during my own flight training) was "GUMPS!":

Gas - correct fuel tanks selected

Undercarriage - landing gear down

Mixture - full rich for sea level landings

Propellers - full fine for landing

Switches - fuel pumps, magnetos, landing lights, heater, whatever

Maybe since the B-1 is a jet (doesn't have props, mixture controls, etc) Training Command feels it's useless these days...

25 posted on 12/01/2006 9:01:52 AM PST by GoldCountryRedneck ("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Putin is doing a great job of arming all our enemies.


26 posted on 12/01/2006 9:02:32 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: KeyLargo

And I believe they get special consideration by the promotion board.


27 posted on 12/01/2006 10:26:06 AM PST by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: Major_Risktaker

Wooo Hooo! I want to buy some of them there fighters!


28 posted on 12/01/2006 10:34:18 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: KeyLargo

Oh, God. Is that ever painful to see...


29 posted on 12/01/2006 10:36:40 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: rlmorel

Venezuelan Su-30MKV pilots, fear the Raptor! Arrrrrrggggggghhhhhh!

http://www.jamaipanese.com/gallery/thumbs/lrg-125-f-22_raptor_2.jpg


30 posted on 12/30/2008 4:44:06 AM PST by myknowledge (Nothing beats Australia's F-22EMA Raptor)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Selling hi-tech weapons to third world countries hardly ever works out. They don’t have the training or discipline to employ them effectively. Just money down a rat hole.

I suppose it might intimidate the neighbors a little bit, but I find it hard to believe that they pose a serious threat to the U.S.


31 posted on 12/30/2008 4:47:27 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
These birds will quickly rust, get cross wired, crash and burn.

Russian influence in South America is symbolic force projection. Remember the "MONROE Doctrine"? It used to mean something and the USA once enforced it; overtly and covertly. Where does America draw the line on our National Defense today? A tragically mute point indeed!!

32 posted on 12/30/2008 5:16:11 AM PST by Broker (ripped.)
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To: Broker

It just reveals Chavez for the blustering fool that he is. It may have an effect on the neighbors, one of which would be to invite in U.S. bases, like NATO arose from Stalin’s attempts to intimidate Europe after the second world war.


33 posted on 12/30/2008 5:23:10 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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