Election 2008: Tancredo, Gilchrist Or Dobbs?(smoking what, I don't know

The Post Chronicle ^ | November 18, 2006 | William H. Calhoun

[Dane]

Election 2008: Tancredo, Gilchrist Or Dobbs? By William H. Calhoun Nov 18, 2006

Will Tom Tancredo, Jim Gilchrist or Lou Dobbs run for president in 2008?

The GOP is in serious trouble. All conservatives I know are furious that the pro-amnesty Mel Martinez will be the new RNC Chair. A GOP county chair recently said to me, "If the GOP continues to move to the Left, conservatives will have no choice but to vote third party in 2008."

Historically the Republican Party has been a very liberal party, and only recently has it become more conservative. From the 1860s to the 1950s, for example, one could easily find more conservatives in the Democratic Party than in the Republican. Are the left-wingers at the helm (Bush, Rove, McCain, Mike "Amnesty" Pence) steering the GOP back to its liberal roots? It appears so.

One would think that the recent election would have set back the liberals (aka neolibearls, neocons, globalists, et al.) in the GOP. It was a referendum on Iraq, not immigration, and by far more pro-amnesty Republicans lost seats than did anti-amnesty Republicans. This election, in theory, should pave the way for conservatives, but the liberals still control the party.

Many liberal talking heads still represent the GOP in the media (Linda "Aztlan" Chavez, Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes), and they despise real conservatives. And now the appointment of the left-winger Mel Martinez as party chair is a complete slap in the face to patriots who love the United States.

For the past 6 years or more, the neocons have directed much Republican policy, and have transformed the party into one of neoliberal globalism (aka neoconservatism). Now, with liberals like McCain, Giuliani and Romney moving into prominence, this leftward momentum will continue.

The GOP is peddling liberal candidates (John McCain, Rudolph Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and Condoleezza Rice), and trying to silence potential conservatives (like Tancredo).

Despite what they may say to secure the nomination, McCain, Giuliani, and Rice are all pro-affirmative action, pro-choice, pro-homosexual, pro-interventionist foreign policy, pro-NAFTA superhighway, pro-North American Union, and support the third-world invasion of America.

Although Mitt Romney has tried recently to sell himself as a conservative, he has a very long track record of liberal causes. One can almost be certain that he is a liberal in disguise.

Some may say that Newt Gingrich is not a liberal per se, but he (unlike Reagan) certainly backs a neocon interventionist foreign policy, and would probably start another war. And although he recently has criticized the third-world invasion of America, only a few years ago he supported amnesty. Newt Gingrich is more neocon than conservative.

Furthermore, all the above support free trade, which is destroying the American economy. Historically and philosophically, conservatives have opposed free trade, and they should. It is national suicide. But many in the GOP, like those above, have been "neoconned" on this issue.

The only hope for conservatives in the GOP is that Tom Tancredo may run and secure the party nomination. He probably has the largest grassroots support of any candidate, which would put him at an initial advantage. Although liberals in the party like Mehlman and McCain have tried to silence him, Tancredo has grown into a national legend.

Although Tancredo backed Bush's neocon war in Iraq, it does not appear to be a major issue for him. On everything else, Tancredo is right. He is pro-life, pro-values, pro-small government, opposes the treasonous NAFTA superhighway, opposes the ultra-liberal and unconstitutional North American Union, and vehemently opposes the third-world invasion of America.

If Tancredo does not secure the nomination, and a liberal does (like McCain, Giuliani, Romney, Rice or Gingrich) then conservatives will have no choice but to leave the party. One can expect to see a mass Exodus from the GOP in 2008.

Jim Gilchrist, of the Minutemen, may seek the 2008 nomination for the Constitution Party, and would make a fine president. He also is probably the highest profile candidate the Constitution Party could run. Gilchrist is socially conservative, anti-North American Union, and wants to stop the third-world invasion of America. I know not a single conservative who would vote for a liberal like McCain over a conservative like Gilchrist.

Although only a rumor among bloggers, there is the hope that Lou Dobbs may seek the Reform Party nomination. Dobbs, a great patriot, is a life-long conservative, anti-North American Union, anti-free trade, and opposes the third-world invasion of America. Dobbs also is very popular nationally, potentially could sweep the general election, and would be an outstanding president. If Lou Dobbs runs, you should expect to see many defections not only from the GOP, but also from the Democratic Party.

At this point, the only hope for conservatives, and the American middle class, is Tancredo, Gilchrist or Dobbs. Let's pray that at least one of them - or someone who shares their values - is running for president in 2008.

William H. Calhoun is a conservative writer, and independent columnist

[Dane]

LOL! Tancredo whose 3 biggest supporters(Hayworth, Graf, Hostettler) lost, or Gilchrist a quasi-marxist, or nancy pelosi's newest bestest friend, Lou Dobbs.

[Old_Mil]

Ah dane, there you go again. Mocking legitimate conservatives who have demonstrated more conservatism exists in their fingernail than in your entire body.

Any of these choices would be better than the Pseudocrats whose names have been floated to date.

[kjo]

I am beginning to conclude that the GOP has taken a walk on conservatives; I'm leaning toward the Consitution Party. I will throw my vote away before I vote for McCain or Rudy.

[Dane]

Ah dane, there you go again. Mocking legitimate conservatives who have demonstrated more conservatism exists in their fingernail than in your entire body.

LOL! Quasi marxist Gilchrist or nancy's newest friend, Lou Dobbs, are conservative, ROFLMAO.

[rhombus]

One would think that the recent election would have set back the liberals (aka neolibearls, neocons, globalists, et al.) in the GOP. It was a referendum on Iraq, not immigration, and by far more pro-amnesty Republicans lost seats than did anti-amnesty Republicans.

If it was a referendum on Iraq then what makes anyone think that immigration is THE issue for 2008? (groan). I foresee many years op Democrat majorities while conservatives gnaw on their tails.

[FreeInWV]

Any truth to Sam Brownback's candidacy?

[Reagan Man]

A few of Tancredo's biggest supporters like John Hostettler, Mike Sodrel and J.D. Hayworth are gone. Tancredo picked up support from Michele Bachman- MN's 6th, Geoff Davis - KY's 4th, Ron Lewis - Kentucky's 2nd, John Doolittle - CA's 4th and my new Congressman, Doug Lamborn of Colorado's 5th House District. We also won bigtime on ballot inititives in Arizona and Colorado.

Btw, three of Tancredo's biggest supporters are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin. Not to mention at least three out of four Freepers too boot.

[Dane]

LOL! Three out of four people on FR are Tancredo supporters for president?

Are you smoking the same stuff as Mr. Calhoun?

[Reagan Man]

>>>>The GOP is in serious trouble. All conservatives I know are furious that the pro-amnesty Mel Martinez will be the new RNC Chair. A GOP county chair recently said to me, "If the GOP continues to move to the Left, conservatives will have no choice but to vote third party in 2008."

Well said.

[Dane]

Well said.

Yeah welll said from a guy who thinks nancy pelosi's newest friend, lou dobbs, should run for president.

[NapkinUser]

Tancredo's biggest supports did not lose. Tancredo's biggest fans seem to be Brian Bilbray and Jean Schmidt, Schmidt so much that she claimed she had Tancredo's endorsement in an ad, and Tancredo asked her to stop.

Gilchrist will probably be the Constitution party candidate. Tancredo, if Wayne Allard doesn't retire, will most likely run for president. Looks like some good candidates will be available. Tancredo and Hunter probably won't win the nomination, but Gilchrist give CONSERVATIVES an alternative should the GOP put up a McCain/Giuliani/Hagel type.

[Jack Black]

Yes, I believe so. Yesterday there was news about him (Brownback) running.

I have a hard time viewing Lou Dobbs as a conservative. I don't know a lot about the man, and I appreciate his concern for the border, but what are his conservative bonafides?

I think it's a stretch to call McCain a "liberal". Yes, he disagrees with many Freepers on immigration. But one issues does not a conservative make. He is pro-life, not a flaming anti second ammendment guy, has been anti-pork for years, supports a strong military, is a proud vet.

Compare and contrast with Hillary, someone who *is* actually a liberal. I don't see a whole lot in common.

So while Tancredo would be an interesting choice (I hope he runs to liven up the race) I don't think your take on McCain is correct.

[NapkinUser]

LOL! Tancredo whose 3 biggest supporters(Hayworth, Graf, Hostettler) lost...

And Tancredo himself won. And how do you know those are his three biggest supporters? Stop lying Dane, if you can.

http://www.teamamericapac.org/

Election Round Up

Seats We Won
Michele Bachman- MN's 6th
Doug Lamborn - CO's 5th
Geoff Davis - KY's 4th
Ron Lewis - Kentucky's 2nd
John Doolittle - CA's 4th

Heroes We Will Miss
John Hostettler - IN's 8th
Mike Sodrel - IN's 9th
J.D. Hayworth - AZ's 5th

"The election has had mixed results for immigration reform patriots. The good news is that we got a few great new legislators like Michele Bachman and Doug Lamborn. Pro Borders ballot measures in Arizona and Colorado were passed when the issue went straight to the voters.

There was also bad news in this election. Some of our strongest leaders in the House like John Hostettler and J.D. Hayworth were defeated. Some fresh faces who we hoped to see in Congress like Randy Graf and Vernon Robinson lost. However, we must remember that these people only lost because their opponents tried to sound like Tom Tancredo, even though they won’t vote like him."

[Reagan Man]

Read the article Dane and stop engaging in obfuscation.

At this point, the only hope for conservatives, and the American middle class, is Tancredo, Gilchrist or Dobbs. Let's pray that at least one of them - or someone who shares their values - is running for president in 2008.

Free Republic Opinion Poll: How would you vote if it's Tom Tancredo vs Hillary in '08?

Composite Opinion
Tom Tancredo	83.6%		5,295
Third party	6.0%		379
Hillary	4.5%		286
Sit it out	3.0%		188
Undecided	2.9%		185
	100.0%		6,333
Member Opinion
Tom Tancredo	86.5%		2,399
Third party	5.0%		140
Undecided	4.1%		113
Sit it out	2.6%		73
Hillary	1.7%		48
	99.9%		2,773
Non-Member Opinion
Tom Tancredo	81.3%		2,896
Third party	6.7%		239
Hillary	6.7%		238
Sit it out	3.2%		115
Undecided	2.0%		72
	99.9%		3,560

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Free Republic Opinion Poll: Do you support or oppose H.R. 4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005?

Composite Opinion
Support	82.4%		3,368
Oppose	17.6%		719
	100.0%		4,087
Member Opinion
Support	83.5%		1,589
Oppose	16.5%		314
	100.0%		1,903
Non-Member Opinion
Support	81.5%		1,779
Oppose	18.5%		405
	100.0%		2,184

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[GOP_1900AD]

Yeah we know Dobbs is a clown and that you have a hair up your butt for Hayworth and Tancredo. But the fact is, if you refuse to face the issues, me and about 20 million of my closest friends are going to grab you and your ilk by your collars and send you all packing out of the big tent.

[Dane]

Pro Borders ballot measures in Arizona

Uh as I basically said on another thread, pro-immigration reform won, Tancredoite illegal immigration blowhards(Hayworth, Graf) lost in Arizona, there is a message there.

[CrawDaddyCA]

I will throw my vote away before I vote for McCain or Rudy.

I totally agree.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>Uh as I basically said on another thread, pro-immigration reform won ...

You're a bold face liar.

[gidget7]

Duncan Hunter would make a fabulous president. A real conservative!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1741802/posts

[freedomfiter2]

I'm leaning toward the Consitution Party. I will throw my vote away before I vote for McCain or Rudy.

I'm with you. If the GOP throws away their nomination on another HW or Dole, I can throw away my vote with a clear conscience.