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DON'T DRUG THEM (can't believe this is from SF Chronicle about Ritalin kids)
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/19/06 | Lawrence Diller

Posted on 11/19/2006 9:59:54 AM PST by paulat

DON'T DRUG THEM
Parents' obsession with their children's self-esteem plus profit-driven diagnoses create a dangerous prescription
Lawrence Diller

In our zeal to help our children feel better about themselves, are we really doing them any favors, or could we actually be hurting them?

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Several years ago, I treated an 8-year-old patient who had an IQ of 130 but was getting only B's and C's at his private school because he wouldn't turn in his homework despite his teachers' and parents' best efforts. He was more focused on reading adult level texts about the Sahara desert, his current interest. But he was feeling worse and worse about his less-than-stellar grades, so I ultimately prescribed Ritalin for him. After that experience and many similar ones, I began to wonder if someday I'd be seeing "the last normal child" in my office.

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ADHD has become the ubiquitous way we view problems of children's behavior and performance. While the Centers for Disease Control report 2.5 million children take a medication for ADHD, most research epidemiologists say the number is closer to 4 million. A more precise gauge comes from a medication insurance clearinghouse report that shows nearly 1 in 10 11-year-old white boys is currently treated with a stimulant such as Ritalin.

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First, we should make a concerted effort to involve fathers more immediately and directly in the evaluation of their children's behavior or school performance

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Father's involvement is critical. He often has a different perspective than the mom (he generally sees less of a problem because he's around less and also stereotypically is more effective with discipline). His participation with any behavior plan (or medication treatment for that matter) makes its success far more likely than without him.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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Don't allow physical activity (tag is too "violent"...recess is cancelled)...park 'em in front of video games...and above all...DON'T let boys be boys.

I wonder what kind of men these boys will turn out to be?

1 posted on 11/19/2006 9:59:57 AM PST by paulat
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Our son was diagnosed by the school counselor as been ADD because he gazed out the window instead of doing the work in his workbooks in third grade. I was in tears but on the way out of the meeting, my husband asked, "what percentage of kids are ADD or ADHD?" The counselor said, "49% of boys" so my husband snapped back that it was therefore normal and the school had to deal with it. We decided to use adrenalin instead of ritilin and we bought Dobson's book, "Strong Willed Children." I wish we had had the TV show Dog Whisperer but anyway, he turned out okay.


2 posted on 11/19/2006 10:03:43 AM PST by Mercat
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There is no greater success to a doctor or therapist than to create a weak-willed, nervously smiling, highly agreeable dope clutching his or her prescription -- believing that they are cured... of something.

Oh they're "cured" all right.

More than they know, they are indeed very "cured".

3 posted on 11/19/2006 10:06:23 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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he turned out okay

Good news! I realize some kids need some help...I'm just noting that we're shutting down normal outlets for boys, especially.

4 posted on 11/19/2006 10:07:10 AM PST by paulat
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I was Diagnosed as an ADHD kid back in the 80's when there was little known about it yet. My Dr. prescribed Ritalin for me as I was "out of control" After I got old enough I stopped taking it because I realized that this was just another way for society to drug us into submission. Funny thing is now I'm 32 with a 4 year degree, buying a house and making more income that this doctor.

So basically I turned into a normal man.
5 posted on 11/19/2006 10:07:56 AM PST by airplaneguy
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To: paulat

I need to bookmark the article...my 4-year old is already getting diagnoses of ADHD...he's simply a VERY active 4-year old BOY!


6 posted on 11/19/2006 10:08:39 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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You were a normal child, and you turned into a normal person.


7 posted on 11/19/2006 10:09:32 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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This guy has a book, too...I liked the article because he admits he used to inappropriately prescribe meds. He doesn't seem like a "no drugs, ever" freak.


8 posted on 11/19/2006 10:10:44 AM PST by paulat
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This son didn't like organized sports but got a green belt in Tae Kwon Do, road across the state on his bicycle, learned to play the guitar, was in choir, jazz band and rep theater in HS. He now is leaving a job as a geologist to play string bass in a band - he plays five instruments brilliantly. He's a pretty neat kid.


9 posted on 11/19/2006 10:10:52 AM PST by Mercat
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To: SteveMcKing
There is no greater success to a doctor or therapist than to create a weak-willed, nervously smiling, highly agreeable dope clutching his or her prescription -- believing that they are cured... of something. Oh they're "cured" all right. More than they know, they are indeed very "cured".

Yes, these doctors and therapists have created a prescription clutching highly dependent customer for life.

10 posted on 11/19/2006 10:10:57 AM PST by FreeReign
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My 2 1/2 year old son suddenly entered his "terrible twos" phase in the last couple of weeks. He always does the exact opposite of what we ask him to do or not to do. It struck me that his behavior could be described as "hyperactive" and that if an older child acted this way in school, perhaps the teacher would recommend drugs. But he's really just acting like a normal boy.


11 posted on 11/19/2006 10:11:04 AM PST by wideminded
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After I got old enough I stopped taking it because I realized that this was just another way for society to drug us into submission.

I'm curious...how did you feel when you were taking Ritalin...could you feel a difference?

12 posted on 11/19/2006 10:12:28 AM PST by paulat
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Just think of the number of truly diverse genius' which have been drugged into submission by a post 60s/70s antiestablishment drug culture which got its wish to control whatever they sought. Those who rebel from legitimate authority, rarely, if ever, truly respect children or future generations.


13 posted on 11/19/2006 10:13:16 AM PST by Cvengr
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My 2 1/2 year old son suddenly entered his "terrible twos" phase in the last couple of weeks. He always does the exact opposite of what we ask him to do or not to do.

Gotta laugh, 'cause I pretty much raised my brothers and sister. That's the age when they learn the concept of "no" (meaning, THEY can say "no")

14 posted on 11/19/2006 10:14:39 AM PST by paulat
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Just think of the number of truly diverse genius' which have been drugged into submission

A lot of people on FR hate Bill Gates, but you gotta give him his due...and he is rumored to have a mild form of behavior disorder.

15 posted on 11/19/2006 10:16:53 AM PST by paulat
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I started out as a "no drugs, ever" kind of parent. However, I am thinking, if the doctors are ok with us giving him something ONLY when he has to be at peak attention (school, church) then good.

If they don't agree with that approach, too bad, because that's how I intend to treat my Andy.


16 posted on 11/19/2006 10:17:49 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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ONLY when he has to be at peak attention (school, church)

It's interesting, when I was growing up, our Catholic church had a "cry room" with windows, but shut off from the rest of the congregation, so moms could see the service, but the kids could be kids.

That said...even the kids had to somewhat toe-the-line...this was early 60s Catholicism, for pete's sake!

But I think it was nice to provide a room, instead of a drug.

17 posted on 11/19/2006 10:23:50 AM PST by paulat
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IMHO, I've met sharper idiot savants than Bill Gates....


18 posted on 11/19/2006 10:24:30 AM PST by Cvengr
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IMHO, I've met sharper idiot savants than Bill Gates....

...and your net worth is.... ;)

19 posted on 11/19/2006 10:25:57 AM PST by paulat
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A four year old boy?!?! Give me a break!! Although I did read that there has been a 50% increase in toddlers being drugged in our country. Considering that the US consumes 90% of the ritalin in the world, I would take any diagnosis of ADD, ADHD with a grain of salt. I was a teacher and I was appalled at how many times I had to sit in meetings for this. I went head to head with the other Kindergarten teacher about a boy that we both had in class. I refused to agree that he had ADD and needed to be tested. Her basis for this: the boy was extremely intelligent, could recite the "I have a dream" speech verbatim, write very well, etc. Since he was so smart, he was expected by her to write 10 sentences in his journal everyday and wasn't. What flipping 5 year old is going to sit still for a half hour writing sentences in a journal? NONE!! I also believed that if the kiddos in my classroom didn't want to sit when they did their work, they could stand. No big deal.

I would never let a school drug my child and by Supreme Court ruling, they are not allowed to force you to do it.

rant over...


interesting reading...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17812
20 posted on 11/19/2006 10:27:11 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (What would Reagan do?)
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