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Schools Swarming With Saudi Students
The Stiletto ^ | November 17, 2006 | The Stiletto

Posted on 11/18/2006 5:23:26 AM PST by theothercheek

Thanks to a joint education initiative by the US and Saudi governments, 10,936 Saudi students - a record number - are now enrolled at 733 colleges and universities in this country, with 3,000 more expected to arrive next semester. Nearly 87 percent of these students are studying at institutions of higher learning in just four states (California, Florida, Colorado and Virginia).

So what are Americans supposed to get out of this educational exchange? Kumbaya, a professor tells The Washington Post: "At the government level, relations are strong. . . . But at the popular level, there's a huge amount of mistrust and antipathy," said F. Gregory Gause III, a University of Vermont professor who specializes in Saudi affairs. "This [scholarship program] is a good step towards trying to dissipate some of that mistrust and antipathy."

According to the State Department, 9,471 Saudis were given student visas in the year ending Sept. 30 under this new program - 297 percent more than the 2,383 issued the year before. The Washington Post reports that State Department officials who agreed to be interviewed for its article insisted on anonymity – the anonymice strike again - and that the department's public affairs office "declined to provide an official to speak on the record."

The Stiletto thinks if no one at the State Department is willing to defend this program publicly, it is a tacit admission that opening our doors to thousands of young Saudi men - an unknowable number of whom may be harboring secret dreams of lounging in heaven with 72 virgins at their beck and call - is irresponsible, to say the least.

The Washington Post did not offer any details about a yet-to-be implemented reciprocal program in which students from the US will study and teach in Saudi Arabia. The Stiletto is willing to bet that to do so, both genders will need to give up:

Freedom of worship if they are Christians or Jews. There are no churches or temples in Saudi Arabia, and Americans have reported their bibles being confiscated upon landing at the airport.

Freedom of speech. Non-Muslims cannot discuss their religion, or they will be arrested for proselytizing. (On the other hand, non-Muslims are free to convert to Islam – sword held menacingly close to throat, optional.)

Freedom of association. Women in Saudi Arabia never walk alone or in the company of a man who is not a relative; dating and any form of intimate contact between unmarried men and women is strictly forbidden.

Why any American would voluntarily give up his or her personal and religious freedoms for any reason is beyond The Stiletto’s comprehension.

NOTE: This is the third article in a feature called "The Daily Blade" and follows articles titled "The Time Is Still Not Right For Hillarycare" and "The Top 10 Safest And Most Dangerous Cities In The US." Also, the original source includes links to related articles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: campusradicals; invasionusa; islam; jihadis; saudiarabia; studentvisas; thestiletto; thestilettoblog; wot
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1 posted on 11/18/2006 5:23:29 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek

More sleeper cells, coming to a university near you!


2 posted on 11/18/2006 5:26:19 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: theothercheek; All

Thanks for posting. Very interesting. Check out this thread and the links...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1740751/posts


3 posted on 11/18/2006 5:27:19 AM PST by PGalt
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To: JimRed
More sleeper cells, coming to a university near you! Come on--give Bush some credit! It took him five whole years before he got back in bed with his (our) "friends", the Saudis.
4 posted on 11/18/2006 5:30:20 AM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: theothercheek

"So what are Americans supposed to get out of this educational exchange?"

Oil...


5 posted on 11/18/2006 5:30:54 AM PST by dakine
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To: theothercheek

I'd love to think this move would make some Muslims more friendly to the USA.

I'd also like money to grow on trees.

reposts from previous threads:

More Muslims moving to U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699992/posts

US schools compete for Saudi students -not yet able do effective
background checks on applicants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699252/posts

Victor Davis Hanson: Those Saudi Students. It’s not irrational to
be wary of this deal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701943/posts


and here's a story of how one Muslim student learned tolerance and
embraced diversity after visiting America (/sarc):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686655/posts


6 posted on 11/18/2006 5:34:41 AM PST by VOA
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To: theothercheek

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008046.php

"The other ISA location, which is for younger students and houses some 500 pupils, is on Popes Head Road in southern Fairfax County [Virginia]. In 1981, Saudi paid $3.1 million for that site, which used to be Fairfax Christian School. Another irony--Muslims buying Christian-consecrated ground."

Security is very tight at this 'school'- they are very very paranoid about visitors.


7 posted on 11/18/2006 5:36:41 AM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights.)
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To: VOA

Thanks for those links. Outstanding.


8 posted on 11/18/2006 5:37:10 AM PST by PGalt
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To: theothercheek
This is a fantastic program.

The future of the Gulf area depends on the youth being educated now. Those who have seen and lived among Americans know that economic and other freedom is worth fighting for.

The king is modernizing by educating. He knows that the generation now replacing their fathers and uncles in the business and industrial sector includes many who were educated in America. Their success compared to those educated at home or in Europe is obvious.

To oppose the educating of Saudis in America is in the long run a counterproductive effort. To oppose is to have been suckered by Al Queda propaganda. Saudi Arabia and the gulf are the counter to fanatic Islam and Iran. Embrace the gulf Arabs and their emerging neighbor in Iraq or forget living in the prosperity you now enjoy.
9 posted on 11/18/2006 5:44:15 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: theothercheek

Our president and congress are clueless. The enemy uses its host to train, and we do nothing.


10 posted on 11/18/2006 5:45:58 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: PGalt

If Victor Davis Hanson says the deal stinks...there's a really good
chance that it actually does.

I pray that, at the least, most of the Saudi students end up as
drunken frat boys that will be totally useless to Jihad.


11 posted on 11/18/2006 5:46:40 AM PST by VOA
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To: rbg81

I lived in Riyadh from 81-85. The more Saudis that come to the USA and find out about freedom, the better. Eventually, they will pickup more of our culture that we will of theirs. HOWEVER, we need to screen these people carefully.


12 posted on 11/18/2006 5:48:37 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: JimRed

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

George Santayana


13 posted on 11/18/2006 5:52:06 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: theothercheek
I think this program is great. I mean, I have been told by the left/MSM/hippie lettuce smoking antiwar protesters that the reason we were attacked on 9/11 (and why they just plain hate us and want to kill us) was because the muslims are poor, uneducated, down trodden, etc. I believe that this will help these poor "lost boys of Saudi Arabia" not hate us. Well, except that the hijackers were educated and from upper middle class families and have been taught to hate us since birth right through all of their formative years. Yeah, this is a great idea. In fact, I would like the name of the MENSA candidate who came up with this idea. So I can write him a nice thank you note...
14 posted on 11/18/2006 5:53:18 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (What would Reagan do?)
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To: theothercheek
"But at the popular level, there's a huge amount of mistrust and antipathy,......"


Just a guess, It might have something to do with Saudis continued support for madresses and that little "slip up" of flying airplanes into tall buildings.

...just a hunch though...
15 posted on 11/18/2006 5:54:57 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bert
"Those who have seen and lived among Americans know that economic and other freedom is worth fighting for."


Hmmmm, I'm not buyin' that line of bs.

How come Atta didn't walk out of the Florida titie bar with that outlook?
16 posted on 11/18/2006 5:57:08 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: theothercheek

And at the redneck level, there are alot more targets at hand after the next big Religon of Peace attack(which is coming, it's only a matter of time).


17 posted on 11/18/2006 5:58:59 AM PST by exnavy (God does not require anyone to blow themselves to enter heaven.)
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To: bert

You don't have much first hand experiance with musloms in school, or anywhere else, do you.


18 posted on 11/18/2006 6:01:43 AM PST by exnavy (God does not require anyone to blow themselves to enter heaven.)
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To: theothercheek
On the visa vending machine that is Foggy Bottom...

Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals, and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores By Michelle Malkin

19 posted on 11/18/2006 6:03:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: theothercheek

Unfortunately, some of our clueless co-eds will be suckered into Muslim marriages with these pagans. Then we'll get to see them crying on TV that the SOB took their children back to Saudi Arabia, and they have no parental rights. Every parent ought to be watchful of whom their daughters are dating on the campuses mentioned in this article.


20 posted on 11/18/2006 6:18:08 AM PST by kittymyrib
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